I read a thread on m4carbine.net a while ago about an adapter you put between the lower and the buffer tube that would allow you to fold the stock to the side. I do remember that if you fired the rifle with the stock folded, things broke.

 

I believe RockRiver makes a folding stock for their piston AR line. But most of the platform seems proprietary, and I couldn't be bothered with one.

Just google folding stock ar15 and the adapter he's talking about is right there.

 

Try lawtactical.com.

 

Hey, . . . thanks, folks, . . . I've been considering getting an AR pistol, . . . kind of a "going to a bad neighborhood, need more than a 1911" type of arm, . . . but not something that would necessitate a full size AR or other MBR.

I got to thinking about a folding stock, . . . I could slip it into a tennis racket bag, . . . becomes very non threatening, . . .

Gonna have to re-visit this thing now that I know this is available.

May God bless,
Dwight

 

Buy an under folder AK. Cheap to buy, compact, cheap to shoot.

 

dwight55; Hey, . . . thanks, folks, . . . I've been considering getting an AR pistol, . . . kind of a "going to a bad neighborhood, need more than a 1911" type of arm, . . . but not something that would necessitate a full size AR or other MBR.

I got to thinking about a folding stock, . . . I could slip it into a tennis racket bag, . . . becomes very non threatening, . . .

Gonna have to re-visit this thing now that I know this is available.

May God bless,
Dwight

Lets see now, walking through a bad neighborhood with what looks like a tennis racket, almost looks like you're trying to get some trigger time.BGRIN1

 

Faxon Firearms makes a piston upper that is somewhat AK-style. It doesn't use the buffer or tube or anything, so you could get that Law Tactical adapter and still be able to fire it in folded condition.

 

Yea I have to ask why not an AK, cheap and efficient ammo.

 

Folding stock....

Ya know with enough force, you can make a folding stock out of every stock.
It's been my experience that if you want a gun broke in way it can't be broke, give it to a Marine. But the gun will be clean, but no finish left on it, may be missing the handguard, but in place where the handguard was there will a minimum of three rolls of 100mph duct tape wrapped around the barrel. Of course some where wrapped in the duct tape there will be a surefire light, because "who needs a pictanny rail to mount a weapon light" when you have duct tape. When Marine turns in the weapon, it will, always, again always have the selector on full auto, unless he/she used a vicegrips to turn the selector to the impossible fourth position, pointed down. I don't know why there are adjustable rear sights on the M16A2, when a marine would just beat the front part of the barrel against the ground to adjust for windage anyway, just like they used to to with the M16A1 version. I could go on, and, on....

 

I can testify: they love that 100 mph tape

Ya know with enough force, you can make a folding stock out of every stock.
It's been my experience that if you want a gun broke in way it can't be broke, give it to a Marine. But the gun will be clean, but no finish left on it, may be missing the handguard, but in place where the handguard was there will a minimum of three rolls of 100mph duct tape wrapped around the barrel. Of course some where wrapped in the duct tape there will be a surefire light, because "who needs a pictanny rail to mount a weapon light" when you have duct tape. When Marine turns in the weapon, it will, always, again always have the selector on full auto, unless he/she used a vicegrips to turn the selector to the impossible fourth position, pointed down. I don't know why there are adjustable rear sights on the M16A2, when a marine would just beat the front part of the barrel against the ground to adjust for windage anyway, just like they used to to with the M16A1 version. I could go on, and, on....

My son has been in the Corps a little over a year. During a visit home before deployment to the 3D MARDIV in Okinawa he repaired my broken plastic wheel barrow with dark earth 100 mph tape. Apparently the love affair starts early. He left me the balance of the roll.

 

Watch it as besides a minimum barrel length (16"), the NFA mandates a minimum overall length as well. I can't remember what the minimum is offhand but I believe it's somewhere around 26-28 inches or thereabouts. If the rifle is below the minimum it has to be registered just like a SBR. Forgot: a folding stock folded must exceed the minimum length as BATFE equates a folded stock to a "cutoff" stock. Same-same with shotguns and folders.

As for an AR-15 pistol, shoot one before you buy/build one. Those dang things are LOUD!!! And you won't believe the fireball they give off, some powders give you one in daylight! First time I saw one I thought the gun blew-up on me! The owner was laughing his butt off as he told me the same thing happened to him when he first shot it in low-light. If you don't hit who you're shooting at, the muzzle blast and flash will scare them half out of their wits. But they are FUN!

 

Watch it as besides a minimum barrel length (16"), the NFA mandates a minimum overall length as well. I can't remember what the minimum is offhand but I believe it's somewhere around 26-28 inches or thereabouts. If the rifle is below the minimum it has to be registered just like a SBR. Forgot: a folding stock folded must exceed the minimum length as BATFE equates a folded stock to a "cutoff" stock. Same-same with shotguns and folders.

This is not true. The minimum OAL is 26", however, that measurement is taken with a folding or telescoping stock fully extended. Minimum bbl length is 16" measured from the bolt face and includes any permanently attached muzzle devices.

http://eagle21.com/class-iii-firearms/

Apparently CA and MI are potato and have additional state laws which cause OAL to be measured with a folding stock folded. They are the exception, not the rule.

 

This is your answer.
"Generally speaking",
Shorter than M4gerys with a folding stock
and shorter than a pistol AR
And shorter than a SBR AR15 with a collapsed stock.

http://www.impactguns.com/pap-m92-pv-pistol-762x39mm-30-rnd-mag-hg3089-n-787450220720.aspx

 

Para Ordnance used to offer the TTR-15, but it looks like its out of production.

 

Law Tactical has a new Gen III device, tht allows the stock to be folded. You can also fire the rifle with the stock folded, with no damage. Since the recoil return spring is folded out of the way the rifle does not cycle.

 

SIG 556. If you want a rifle with a folding stock in .223/5.56 that uses M16 magazines.

SIG makes a pistol version as well.

The 556 has an AK47 type operating system, so no buffer tube. It can be fired with the stock folded.

If you want a bigger bullet the SIG 556R shoots the 7.62X39 round and uses AK47 magazines.

I like my 556R.

More expensive than an AK? Yes.

 

You want 'compact'?

This is compact:

http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=441

CAVman in WYoming

 

+1 to CAVman. This is the answer. Get a piston driven AR15 pistol, gets rid of the stupid buffer tube, ultra compact. Pricey, yes. Can't have it all, but you can have what matters GITEN
m14brian

 

Being knee deep in both AK krinks,pistols, rifles and AR pistols,carbines ,along with many other short and handy items I would suggest either the AK for a situation if I didn't know when I may be returing home. Nothing knocking the abilities of the AR in pistol form but drag it into a bad environment and you can rest assured you will develop a problem.

If you want to stay away from tax stamps but want it all I would head towards a bullpup. Yes you can spend a few bucks more if you stick to the newest Aug, MSAR e4, or the Tavor you will have something that will reach out just as far as you could need but still be a tiny package. The Sig mentioned yes will work but I would stick to the AK variants before that would be a pick. Once folded up you can lay a ruler out and all thats mentioned with be right with a standard 16" bullpup that doesn't need folding for the most part.

Again if it's a budget bang for the buck deal any AK caliber will do in a under or side folder. AR pistol is a lot of fun to shoot and build but for me they are novelties in my collection. Hog hunt, out the front door issues at the home front of course. Leave home and end up broke down in a bad place I'm toting the tried and true as reliable as a hammer AK.

 

Surprised that the Daewoo AR-100 has not been brought up, in regard to the folding stock?

Compact? Tavor didn't float my boat as much as I anticipated (glad I test fired before buying… and I came REALLY close on a number of occasions). The AUG A3 on the other hand… after sorting out the trigger, it is an awesome little rifle.