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This is a discussion on Rifle Slings? within the Rifle Competition forums, part of the Rifle Forum category; Originally Posted by tflorman There are multiple ways to rig the 1907 sling. It appears that the way you have yours rigged in the "Army" ...


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Old June 25th, 2017, 05:32 PM   #16
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There are multiple ways to rig the 1907 sling. It appears that the way you have yours rigged in the "Army" way. If you read the Jim Owens book, he teaches the "Marine" way. And... of course there are couple other "no pulse" ways to rig them too. Personally, I rig mine the Marine way as per Jim Owen's book, but if you do a bit of googling, you can see how they are all done and decide which one works best for you.

If you don't already have a shooting coat and a glove for your weak hand, you might want to invest in those too. They really do help when you get slung up tight.
Thanks tflorman... I just placed an order for one of his books from Turner Saddlerly... I was just looking at his site and DO need to learn!
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Where do you get the glove? I usually shoot out here in shorts and sandals... I was invaded by ants trying phil's postal match the other day on my new mat and gave up on the sling!

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Old June 25th, 2017, 06:15 PM   #17
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there are several options for gloves....

https://www.creedmoorsports.com
http://champchoice.com/store/main.aspx

The following link shows the glove I just got and it is by far the best glove I've ever had... when you sling up with your M14, your hand will stick like glue to that McMillan stock on your super match.

https://shop.monard.com/gloves/proliner-pro-glove.html

I also hear good things about the Kurt Thune gloves.

http://www.kurtthune.com/products/gloves

The glove serves 2 purposes...
1. helps you sling up tight without it hurting your hand....
2. Gives you great grip against the stock so that once you are slung up tight, your hand won't slip, ruining your sitting or prone position.

A shooting coat can be bought in multiple places too. Given that you aren't competing regularly in matches, I wouldn't go hog wild in buying the creedmoor hardback coat or the Monard Coat, but both Champions choice and creedmoor offer less expensive cloth and canvas coats that have non slip elbow pads, a shoulder pad and a sling pad. Put both the glove and the coat into the picture and it helps you stay in position when trying to shooting all 3 positions.

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Les Tam makes an heirloom quality service rifle sling at a bargain price.

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there are several options for gloves....

https://www.creedmoorsports.com
http://champchoice.com/store/main.aspx

The following link shows the glove I just got and it is by far the best glove I've ever had... when you sling up with your M14, your hand will stick like glue to that McMillan stock on your super match.

https://shop.monard.com/gloves/proliner-pro-glove.html

I also hear good things about the Kurt Thune gloves.

http://www.kurtthune.com/products/gloves

The glove serves 2 purposes...
1. helps you sling up tight without it hurting your hand....
2. Gives you great grip against the stock so that once you are slung up tight, your hand won't slip, ruining your sitting or prone position.

A shooting coat can be bought in multiple places too. Given that you aren't competing regularly in matches, I wouldn't go hog wild in buying the creedmoor hardback coat or the Monard Coat, but both Champions choice and creedmoor offer less expensive cloth and canvas coats that have non slip elbow pads, a shoulder pad and a sling pad. Put both the glove and the coat into the picture and it helps you stay in position when trying to shooting all 3 positions.

??? how does one address the 'back pain' from the sitting position or the lack of proper 'eye relief' in prone? I am 59 and am I expected to get in shape!?

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??? how does one address the 'back pain' from the sitting position or the lack of proper 'eye relief' in prone? I am 59 and am I expected to get in shape!?
"You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes."

4 Motrin or Advil an hour before is good for 8 hours.
Anything better is prescription or illegal. Stretching is important. Your going to use muscles you don't normally use. The knees , well not much you can do there. There's a reason they drafted at 18 and not 59.

Now you got to see them holes so a spotting scope and stand are next on the list. Then your in the rabbit hole.

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??? how does one address the 'back pain' from the sitting position or the lack of proper 'eye relief' in prone? I am 59 and am I expected to get in shape!?
Advil and stretching. .

As for eye relief....What scope are you using? They make longer eye relief scopes, but shooting in position is always a compromise when optics are involved.... especially on a platform that wasn't designed for scope use.

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Advil and stretching. .

As for eye relief....What scope are you using? They make longer eye relief scopes, but shooting in position is always a compromise when optics are involved.... especially on a platform that wasn't designed for scope use.

I have a SWFA 3-15x42 on my rifle now

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Now that was 'deep' and reminds me of Alice Capona

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It sounds to me that you have your super match setup as a prone gun... with the cheek riser and a 15 power scope. Given that's the case, I would move the scope where you need to move it so that your eye relief is correct for prone. Sitting won't be as comfortable, but as you mentioned, you aren't shooting in many matches.

As a prone gun, you can start moving that target farther back and see how does when you stretch her legs. Any chance you have a 600 yard spot in those orchards you mention. Buy some MR targets and see how well you do on your belly with that new sling of yours (or used reduced targets). Shoot 20 shots and see if you score in the 180's or better.

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It sounds to me that you have your super match setup as a prone gun... with the cheek riser and a 15 power scope. Given that's the case, I would move the scope where you need to move it so that your eye relief is correct for prone. Sitting won't be as comfortable, but as you mentioned, you aren't shooting in many matches.

As a prone gun, you can start moving that target farther back and see how does when you stretch her legs. Any chance you have a 600 yard spot in those orchards you mention. Buy some MR targets and see how well you do on your belly with that new sling of yours (or used reduced targets). Shoot 20 shots and see if you score in the 180's or better.
I have one spot set up that is 400 meters and hopefully after next lemon season I can get the hedger to cut me an 800 yd.meter lane tflorman

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You can shoot prone rapid fire at 300 yards and buy a 600 yard reduced for 300 or 200 yard targets to practice your 600 yard stuff or look up the spec for those targets and make your own. It's not actually 600 yards so the wind won't affect you as much, but if you get the point where you are cleaning or nearly so the reduced targets, you would probably fare pretty well at full distance when that time comes. It's definitely a challenge. We know your rifle can do it... question is... Can you

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You can shoot prone rapid fire at 300 yards and buy a 600 yard reduced for 300 or 200 yard targets to practice your 600 yard stuff or look up the spec for those targets and make your own. It's not actually 600 yards so the wind won't affect you as much, but if you get the point where you are cleaning or nearly so the reduced targets, you would probably fare pretty well at full distance when that time comes. It's definitely a challenge. We know your rifle can do it... question is... Can you

??? WILL have to try!

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You could also shoot off a bipod and skip the sling, but you would want to use F-Class targets if you do that. The scoring rings are smaller, but that only fair if you are using a rest.

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You can shoot prone rapid fire at 300 yards and buy a 600 yard reduced for 300 or 200 yard targets to practice your 600 yard stuff or look up the spec for those targets and make your own. It's not actually 600 yards so the wind won't affect you as much, but if you get the point where you are cleaning or nearly so the reduced targets, you would probably fare pretty well at full distance when that time comes. It's definitely a challenge. We know your rifle can do it... question is... Can you
Guys, Out where I have my pallets set and measured at 103 meters; 206 meters and 309 meters down that road South to North... 400 meters takes me across into the neighbors property... I will look into some reduced targets.
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Here in Denver, American Target makes all sorts of targets... Because my home range where I practice is only a 200 yard range, I routinely use the reduced targets to practice on (standard targets for 200 yards, but the 300 and 600 targets are reduced). If you can't find any locally, I know that American target does ship targets all over the place.

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