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Old April 28th, 2020, 04:29 PM   #1
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How Clean Is Clean

Have had my M1A Standard for about a month or so. Here's the question - Say after 50 or more rounds, when cleaning the barrel, how clean do you get it? When you're done, are the patches grey, light grey, white? What's the standard for most of you guys? And what cleaning routine works best, i.e. wet the barrel with patches first or start out scrubbing with a brush? Keep alternating with wet and dry patches until when? What's your go to cleaning solution, Hoppes, etc? Thanks for your advice/expertise/help, etc.

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Old April 28th, 2020, 04:35 PM   #2
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I tend to clean mine when it quits working

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your sposed to clean them?

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Old April 28th, 2020, 04:49 PM   #4
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I used to be OCD to the max about cleaning... now, not so much, but I do believe in wiping your barrel out no matter what. It is too easy to forget, and then a year or more will go by, and your barrel will then have pits due to the moisture loving carbon left behind.

After shooting any amount, I will run a bore snake through the barrel 5 or so times. I put a little CLP on the snake in a few spots before and after the brush. I will wipe out the action and also clean off the bolt face without disturbing the grease too much -reapply grease as needed. I consider this state to be fine for short/medium term storage.

If you really want to clean the bore out, I usually start with a wet patch of Kano Kroil -great stuff. Let it sit for 30 min or more. Repeat with a less wet patch. Then run a brush through. Kroil patches again. This gets most if not all of the carbon out. It will leave copper fouling behind, which isn't a bad thing if there isn't too much. If you want to clean the copper out, MPro7 works well. So does JB Bore Paste -you will think your bores are clean until you try JB Bore Paste.

No matter how hard I want to clean my guns, I like to leave a light coat of Geiselle 0000 Go-Juice. It is a high viscosity oil, or a low viscosity grease... how ever you want to think of it, but it has the consistency of hair gel. But it stays around for a very long time. Great for general lube on rifles, pistols, and shotguns... but also storage. Get some!

Also, get a polymer coated steel cable gun cleaning kit with the brass fittings. Otis makes them, as do others. This way you won't risk marring the bore.

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My barrels are either stainless steel or chrome lined, so cleaning is relatively easy.

At the range I use a Boresnake with a CLP wet patch around the brush.

At home, I have a full length brass rod to use with a brush and patches.

Always pull your brush or patch from breech to muzzle.

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My barrels are either stainless steel or chrome lined, so cleaning is relatively easy.

At the range I use a Boresnake with a CLP wet patch around the brush.

At home, I have a full length brass rod to use with a brush and patches.

Always pull your brush or patch from breech to muzzle.
Great advice here....

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Always pull your brush or patch from breech to muzzle.
Otherwise one could reverse the rifling.

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My barrels are either stainless steel or chrome lined, so cleaning is relatively easy.

At the range I use a Boresnake with a CLP wet patch around the brush.

At home, I have a full length brass rod to use with a brush and patches.

Always pull your brush or patch from breech to muzzle. [IMG class=inlineimg]https://m14forum.com/images/smilies/.gif[/IMG]
I clean from the muzzle with a rod and rod guide since I don't have a cable. I take the brush off after it comes through the breech. Only run the brush once or twice to loosen the carbon then patch it until mostly clean.

Do I run any risk of damaging the barrel?

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Otherwise one could reverse the rifling.

I have more trouble with the rifle 'spinning' off my table as I stick the rod and brush in... Must be why!

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Copper (100%) Chore Boys are a great way to resurrect a spent and mangled bore brush. Just wrap a few strands around an old brush, and bam, new gun cleaning tool!

And I can't recommend enough the Otis cables with the brass fittings for brushes, patches, etc. I have had the same kit for nearly 12 years now. It presents zero risk of bore, chamber, crown damage.

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I've been told by a smith that he repairs more clean weapons than dirty. Clean it when it stops shooting well. I don't scrub my guns mirror clean. Run a few patches. Wipe away any crudded up lube/grease/oil and reapply as needed.

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The only part I clean thouroghly is the barrel. For every round one stroke with a oil soaked bronce brush. After 10 strokes 2 patches. Even then the last patch comes out light gray, never white.

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I keep all of mine spotless. You don't necessarily have to do that I just like to clean them.

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I keep all of mine spotless. You don't necessarily have to do that I just like to clean them.
I enjoy cleaning guns too. Nothing like cracking a cold one and turning on my favorite gun channels, and doing a little scrubbing.

Mmmm.... nothing like the smell of Kroil and coffee in the morning.

If I could put gun cleaning into one rule, it would be this... keep oil on your bore, no matter what.

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I recommend 8 to 12 weeks of boot camp, but while sheltering-in-place at least take a few minutes to read the manual.

https://archive.org/stream/FM23-81968#page/n30/mode/1up

First of all, you want to pull carbon, dirt and debris out of the rifle, not push it into the rifle. This is especially true with bottleneck cartridges, since the chamber is larger than the bore.

Secondly, pulling the rod, cable or rope allows everything to properly center evenly in the bore. Pushing causes the rod and brush unevenly against the side of the bore.

The manual explains how to do this. In short...

Clean the chamber first, then the bore.

Insert a bare rod carefully down the muzzle. Attach the brush or patch holder at the breech. Pull the rod forward and out. Detach brush or patch. Repeat as necessary.

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