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Old April 20th, 2020, 07:13 PM   #16
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quote- Kind of a Ford/Chevy thing.

Chevy makes a truck?

Mrad makes my head hurt

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Old April 20th, 2020, 07:28 PM   #17
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I like MOA scopes, but my service rifle scope is MRAD and I've gotten used to thinking 3 clicks per MOA for my service rifle matches vs 1/4 or 1/2 MOA clicks.

My brain thinks in MOA because I am a 'merican and that's the way I like it.

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Old April 20th, 2020, 09:09 PM   #18
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I like MRAD, because my brain is simple, and while I like math in a leisurely sense when I can do spreadsheets, I'm not so good plugging numbers away.

If I look through a Mil-based reticle, with a 10 mil span (pretty common), whatever the distance is between the 10 mil span at the target is 1/100th of the distance to the target. I'm pretty good at my 100's when it comes to the times tables.

Given that a tall guys is about 2 yards high, and a regular-height guy is half a head short of that, a big pickup is about 6 yards long, a smallish car about 5 yards long, most sheet products 4'x8', most walls of buildings have 8 foot high walls, 9 foot or so from floor to floor, can reference, extrapolate, and estimate by adding a couple zeros pretty easily. I'm used to yards, but you could do it with meters, same difference.

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I like Mils and I like Strelok too. I also have Ballistics Buddy and Ballistic Arc but I settled on Strelok for me.
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Old April 21st, 2020, 06:28 AM   #20
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I like MRAD, because my brain is simple, and while I like math in a leisurely sense when I can do spreadsheets, I'm not so good plugging numbers away.

If I look through a Mil-based reticle, with a 10 mil span (pretty common), whatever the distance is between the 10 mil span at the target is 1/100th of the distance to the target. I'm pretty good at my 100's when it comes to the times tables.

Given that a tall guys is about 2 yards high, and a regular-height guy is half a head short of that, a big pickup is about 6 yards long, a smallish car about 5 yards long, most sheet products 4'x8', most walls of buildings have 8 foot high walls, 9 foot or so from floor to floor, can reference, extrapolate, and estimate by adding a couple zeros pretty easily. I'm used to yards, but you could do it with meters, same difference.
Articulated better than I did, MRAD is quick -n-easy in the field because most of the math is a matter of shifting the decimal point. For those that aren't familiar:

Distance in (unit) = size in (same unit) x 1000 / size in MRAD

Adult western coyote is 1/2 yard high at the shoulder, you glass him at 2 MRAD.
0.5 x 1000 (the 3 place decimal shift) is 500, divide by 2, doggy is 250yds out.

Granted, MOA is pretty easy too, but like MM4M above, I have an easier time thinking of sizes of stuff in yards rather than inches.

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Old April 21st, 2020, 06:35 AM   #21
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I've switched over to all MRAD scopes recently.

Once you get familiar with it I think it's easy, as long as you don't mind thinking in terms of Meters and Centimetres instead of yards and inches for distance and correction.

Either works.

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Old April 21st, 2020, 07:43 AM   #22
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MRAD here for me also. Switched over several years ago. Only have one scope now not MRAD. -Lloyd

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Old April 21st, 2020, 08:33 AM   #23
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MOA for me, that's all I ever used so I just stick with it.

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Old April 21st, 2020, 09:58 AM   #24
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I am in the MRAD camp.
It's just simpler math that I can do in my head. I find it easier to keep track of my adjustments in 1/10ths as opposed to 1/4's
My best scopes are MRAD...MIL to MIL and I'm not ever going back.

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Old April 21st, 2020, 10:04 AM   #25
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In my opinion. They do the same thing. MRAD the numbers are smaller.most MRAD scopes can reach a thou in less than 1 turn. You can’t do that with moa scopes.

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Old April 21st, 2020, 10:35 AM   #26
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I used to use both with a preference to MOA since the numbers were easy to do in my head. MIL is great if you have a drop chart and you use a MIL ranging device.


But now I've started using a Sig Suaer 3000 BDX binocular with a range finder and ballistics calculator, it does all the elevation and windage calculations for me out to 800 yards/meters. If I want to go further I'll have to buy a Kestral 5700 Elite and then I'll be able to do my drops out to 4500 yards or so.

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Old April 21st, 2020, 11:24 AM   #28
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I have a scope I picked up awhile back that was mil/moa but everything since then has been mil. reason being is its more common. I also have some leupold binos that have a mil L reticle. all the binos I used in the marines are mil. you can range the same out of both, its just that the math is different. I can use either one tho'.

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Old April 21st, 2020, 05:08 PM   #29
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Mil is easier math.

I suggest knowing your weapon and its accoutrements

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Old April 21st, 2020, 05:27 PM   #30
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My scoped M1A's are MIL/MIL easy to use for ranging. My 1K competition rifles are MOA/MOA because target and score books are set up in minutes.

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