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Old March 24th, 2020, 02:08 PM   #16
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Im still not totally confident with this platform. I understood it to be much less finicky. Im much more familiar with the m-4 style platforms.
You and me both. I've had my Socom16 for over 10 years and I still learn something new just about every time I go shooting... some of it good, some of it bad.

How 'used' is used? Was it a safe queen, or well used? It may be so new it still might be a little rough from the factory. If it's been used quite a bit, it may suffer from poor maintenance.

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Old March 24th, 2020, 04:01 PM   #17
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The dings in the brass are from the op rod and is normal. I was curious if there was scoring on the brass from the chamber. If there isn't scoring, the chamber is fine. I would strip it down and perform the tilt test and check for gas port alignment.

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Old March 25th, 2020, 10:21 AM   #18
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Check out part #28 in the picture below, the gas valve spring. If the spring is broken then the gas valve can rotate under recoil and cut off the gas to the operating system.


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Old March 25th, 2020, 02:59 PM   #19
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Charging handle? Sorry. I couldn't resist.

It shouldn't need a grilla to pull the op rod to the rear, even when the hammer rests against the bolt. After the hammer has been cocked, the action should cycle smoothly and easily (without speed bumps). The op rod could be dragging on the inside of the fore end. Check inside for rubs.
Also, if the trigger group is seated too deep into the stock, the bolt could be dragging on the hammer, even when it is cocked already.

Please to let us know what you find.

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Old April 3rd, 2020, 09:49 AM   #20
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Here it is in all its splendor. This going bad makes a lot of sense. Took it apart to scrub it last night. It was difficult to field strip. Going to get it fixed. While it is down I'm going to get a warfighter gas system and trigger job from Smith Enterprises.
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Old April 3rd, 2020, 11:37 AM   #21
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Yeah that’s bad. I’d call SAInc and have them fix it. That would not ever happen with a sevicible bolt.

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Old April 8th, 2020, 07:36 AM   #22
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So, i got thid used. Didnt know just how used. Was told that this kind of thing could've happened from using overpowered ammunition. Does that make sense?

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So, i got thid used. Didnt know just how used. Was told that this kind of thing could've happened from using overpowered ammunition. Does that make sense?
The bolt roller (and clip) is an expendable part. I believe replacements came 5 to a pack.

There are many reasons for the roller to come off the bolt. Hot ammunition, dirt, debris, too much grease inside, not enough grease outside, etc.

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Old April 9th, 2020, 01:20 PM   #24
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Hats off to the guys at Smith Enterprise. They installed the warfighter gas system, exchanged my trigger for one thats smooth as butter, and replaced my bolt roller. The ring holding my bolt roller was super flimsy and weak. My op-rod (i still want to call it charging handle) was making some contact where it shouldn't. It feels much more natural when the operation is cycled. Gonna take it out as soon as i am able. Thanks to all the experts on here and my heartfelt thanks to Smith's! You guys are awesome!

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