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This is a discussion on Bula vs Springfield Armory within the Modern M14 forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; Originally Posted by Pvt. Joker That looks like you guys had a major blast ! Id love to do something like that some day. I ...


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Old March 23rd, 2020, 05:43 PM   #31
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That looks like you guys had a major blast ! Id love to do something like that some day.

I thought stuff like that was banned in Cal ?

You got to be kidding me!?


I did tell my friends that had trouble with the 5rd hunting mag in the Blackfeather to try an original 20 rounder to see how much easier it was to lock it in... WE can use 10 rounders for target shooting but need 5 rounders and copper bullets for hunting...-:(

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Old March 23rd, 2020, 09:00 PM   #32
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my Fulton receivers go 'ting, ting' when I got them bailed out of the FFL. I love Fulton receivers- they take USGI parts just fine and lovely. NOt a fan of SAI receivers.

someday I will try a forged receiver..maybe an LRB...just so I can say i did it. But I am perfectly happy w/ the Fultons.

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Old March 25th, 2020, 04:45 PM   #33
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Thumbs up It was just my "dry" humor....sorry

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I did tell my friends that had trouble with the 5rd hunting mag in the Blackfeather to try an original 20 rounder to see how much easier it was to lock it in... WE can use 10 rounders for target shooting but need 5 rounders and copper bullets for hunting...-:(
I was just kidding you. Thats one heck of an outing to be part of with friends. We did or use to do things like that here in Florida but we din't have the backdrop scenery like you guys enjoy. Lands have been gobbled up by builders over the years. I remember deer hunting as a young boy with my dad and his WWII vet buddies close to the area where Disney World now resides.

Sorry to get off topic.

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Old March 26th, 2020, 05:30 PM   #35
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Got an early Springfield which was almost all GI parts Shot well out of the box, added a few upgrades. NM spring guide, fulton trigger job. Quite happy with it. Shot with one of QA guys from Bula at the National Matches last year. His rifle was nicely laid out.

One note Bula will be on Commercial row this year at the National matches if they are not canceled.


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Got an early Springfield which was almost all GI parts Shot well out of the box, added a few upgrades. NM bolt and spring guide, fulton trigger job. Quite happy with it. Shot with one of QA guys from Bula at the National Matches last year. His rifle was nicely laid out.

One note Bula will be on Commercial row this year at the National matches if they are not canceled.
In all of my years with the M14/NM M1A's I have never ran across a NM bolt.

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Old March 27th, 2020, 05:44 AM   #37
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New to the forum by about a week or so. See a lot of posts mentioning Bula. I went to their website and looked around. What makes the Bula Traditional M14 22″ Modified USGI Barrel a better rifle that Springfield Armory's Standard M14?
This is new to me. I didn't know there were Bula M14s.
I hope I don't get bit by this bug.

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In all of my years with the M14/NM M1A's I have never ran across a NM bolt.

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Well they supposedly make NM BCG's for the AR's , which I have yet to see what the difference is in them & a regular BCG . Perhaps a typo?

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I just went out camping this weekend and was happy with MY 'Jeep Gun!'


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Man this post is really making me miss home. CA has crap laws on just about everything, but so much amazing desert and BLM land. I so miss the wide open space of the desert. Love the pictures of the Suburban too! I’ve got a ‘91 rust free GMC Suburban. Needs a transmission, and then I’d drive it anywhere. The truck refuses to die.

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[QUOTE=Heli-guns;4497924Shot with one of QA guys from Bula at the National Matches last year. His rifle was nicely laid out. [/QUOTE]

You shot with the guy that built them for Bula... me. It's always a pleasure to shoot with fellow M14ers.
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Old March 28th, 2020, 07:09 PM   #41
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The SA receiver is made/cast in Quebec Canada and finished/machined in the good ole USA.
However as Phil stated some parts are made here.

That is not really a problem IMO.

I have a favorite M1A and it's a 2002 that came from the factory with an original SA 1962 USGI chromelined barrel. That alone was odd being that late after the "Golden Age" of SA Inc. when there was a glut of USGI parts to be had and many of their rifles came with them installed, not all the same mfg. though but USGI none the less.
After buying it I went thru it and replaced every part that was not from SA and USGI. I now have a complete SAInc. M1A all SA USGI parts rifle that shoots better than I can and with irons holds the 8, 9 and 10 rings at 100 yards off my buttpack with handloads when I have a good day. That isn't championship shooting by any stretch but it groups well. With a better shooter with good eyesight he could make this rifle sing!

It's still my favorite rifle, even over my Remington 700 M40 sniper rifle clone.

I've never seen an SA receiver break in my 65 years on this planet.
Bula is probably a great receiver and rifle if put together by a good M14 smith with good parts however...............

I'd still buy an SA.
I lucked into one of those early all GI parts SA ones(9xxx serial #) second hand but barely shot many years ago and it came with a for real USGI NM marked barrel. I upgraded with more NM stuff, unitized the gas system, and instead of tension bedding, free floated it in a much reinforced and stiffened GI fiberglass stock. Worked pretty well, well enough for me at my skill level until I moved to the AR to be competitive . I still have some of the USGI NOS parts CMP was selling back then including a complete bolt, complete trigger group, and a barrel. I still like banging out a couple magazines at the range with it just for fun.

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I confess that I don't understand 14s requiring gunsmithing.

I attended the National Match Armorer's course at Rock Island in the '80s. Each student assembled and bedded 2 NM rifles per the NM manual. It was simple, but of course GI parts were used. Function in all cases was perfect.

Once I set up a mini production line at a mess hall at Ft. McCoy during a service match and we assembled probably a dozen rifles on SA receivers. (Thanks SA.) No fitting problems with GI parts... That production got inexpensive starter rifles into the hands of uniformed shooters and I was pleased to get good feedback for years.

My point is that with properly made parts the 14 is a screw together item, with the main issues being stocks in some cases. The SA I used climbing to President's 100 and Distinguished was fitted with GI parts and standard NM bedding procedures. I must be suspicious of third party parts. And I see a lot of parts sold with various features alleged to improve accuracy or reliability but no documentation and vague justification. Do they require special fitting requiring a good smith? Some of the stuff sold for both ARs and 14s is surely snake oil. Just my opinion.

On a funny example I asked the leadership of the Army Marksmanship Unit shop about the little hole sometimes drilled in the gas cylinder plug. It's not part of the NM procedures. Their response was that they couldn't see any improvement in accuracy but some shooters had more confidence with it done. Ya really can't disagree with improvements that improve confidence.

I do prefer forged and machined receivers or with receivers machined from billet taking second place. Have used both. With modern CNC machinery a proper forging can be machined with bearing surfaces within tolerance and smooth. I still prefer the better finish and correct GI features of a fully machined receiver but am happy to shoot my SAs as well.

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Good Heavens!!! That is AWESOME shooting! I have to stand and applaud for that one.

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My Bulas shoot pretty decent. I like 10 rnd groups at 100 yds for a test.
I shot this with one of my .308 Bulas, my 6.5s shoot about half this size 10 rnd groups when I do my part. This is an old photo, groups have tightened up a little in the last couple of years with more practice.


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Old April 13th, 2020, 02:04 AM   #44
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Good Heavens!!! That is AWESOME shooting! I have to stand and applaud for that one.
Thank you Sir.

One of my most enjoyable hobbies and I am constantly trying to improve. With the fantastic products coming out of Bula Defense Systems it has become more and more fulfilling.

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