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Old June 5th, 2019, 06:50 PM   #1
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New to me mid eighties Super Match Shaw E2 Stock

Hello I just recently acquired this 1986 serial # 33xxx Super Match. It was a factory ordered with a Hart SS barrel, Shaw E2 stock, and Harris bipod. It was supposedly not fired by the owner (wish I had a dollar every time I’ve heard that story) and it looks good but I have yet to get 308 headspace gauges to check the wear.

Unfortunately it does not have a rear lug. I believe this is about right for this time period but I was hoping you all could chime in on that.

It seems to have mostly USGI parts (trw bolt, HRA op rod, Mixed trigger group) with the exception of the barrel and sights. The front sight is NM. The rear sight is a mix of NM and BM59 parts. The aperture is a .520 and is marked NM but the windfage and elevation knobs are bm59. I know SAI was distributing BM59s but did these people parts get used on M1As?

The gas cylinder is unitized and the stock is bedded.

The butt plate seems to be specific to this stock. I know it will not fit an USGI E2 but do standard butt plates for on the Shaw E2 stock?

Lastly I found something written in the stock channel. It looks like “LO” with the last 3 digits of the serial.

Looking forward to your comments.

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Hello I just recently acquired this 1986 serial # 33xxx Super Match. It was a factory ordered with a Hart SS barrel, Shaw E2 stock, and Harris bipod. It was supposedly not fired by the owner (wish I had a dollar every time Iíve heard that story) and it looks good but I have yet to get 308 headspace gauges to check the wear.

Unfortunately it does not have a rear lug. I believe this is about right for this time period but I was hoping you all could chime in on that.

It seems to have mostly USGI parts (trw bolt, HRA op rod, Mixed trigger group) with the exception of the barrel and sights. The front sight is NM. The rear sight is a mix of NM and BM59 parts. The aperture is a .520 and is marked NM but the windfage and elevation knobs are bm59. I know SAI was distributing BM59s but did these people parts get used on M1As?

The gas cylinder is unitized and the stock is bedded.

The butt plate seems to be specific to this stock. I know it will not fit an USGI E2 but do standard butt plates for on the Shaw E2 stock?

Lastly I found something written in the stock channel. It looks like ďLOĒ with the last 3 digits of the serial.

Looking forward to your comments.

Thank you
Don't hold me too this but the rear lug from the factory didn't come out on the SM until about 1993/94 so any SM made prior will be rear lug less. The rear sight assembly is a real mix of parts, SAI would have had a complete NM/2A in the rear. The initials of LO is the person that bedded the rifle at SAI the numbers should match the last 4 of your rifles ser. number if not someone along the way traded stocks....

The Shaw E2 as you can tell is a weee bit different than a USGI E2 stock. however a good close up of the butt-plate assembly would help. I think they also offered a second E2 type stock that used the std. shaped forearm and the std. M14 rifle butt-plate.

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Factory rear lug came about in 1991, I believe.

The Shaw E2 style stock is rare. Nice find.

USGI M14 parts weren't always available. SAI often used surplus Garand and Italian rear sight parts. I've seen M1 lock-bar windage knobs on rifles made even in the late '90s.

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Factory rear lug came about in 1991, I believe.

The Shaw E2 style stock is rare. Nice find.

USGI M14 parts weren't always available. SAI often used surplus Garand and Italian rear sight parts. I've seen M1 lock-bar windage knobs on rifles made even in the late '90s.
Unless those parts were converted too a ball and detent and I don't think so? A SM should have a complete NM/2a rear.

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After further investigation I have found it is a mark 4 type BM59 butt plate
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The first rear lugged SA, Inc. M1A was built in mid-1989. The rear lug for the Super Match M1A was not a regular feature until 1991 (about serial number 064000). The M1A ball and detent rear sight ear was optional from 1979 until at least 1990.

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Update- I was able to get a letter from Springfield documenting that this rifle is in fact a 1986 Glen Nelson Supermatch rifle with the factory Shaw E2 stock and Hart Barrel. It is a great shooter and I have been using a lower grade scope. If the scope in this picture looks familiar I just picked this off the trader. This is my favorite rifle in my collection. I can’t wait to get it to the range to try it out.
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Update- I was able to get a letter from Springfield documenting that this rifle is in fact a 1986 Glen Nelson Supermatch rifle with the factory Shaw E2 stock and Hart Barrel. It is a great shooter and I have been using a lower grade scope. If the scope in this picture looks familiar I just picked this off the trader. This is my favorite rifle in my collection. I canít wait to get it to the range to try it out.
Nice Rifle!! and thats a nice scope too

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Shaw E2 "combat" stock"

That is the rare Shaw E2 "combat" stock" - and it is only the 2nd one that I have ever seen. I own one of the "standard" Shaw E2 stocks without the increased thickness that is provided for a Harris bipod.
From the 1986 SAI catalog:
Shaw E2 Combat Stock (not shown) - Another special walnut stock that's built with increased thickness in the front to accommodate a Harris bipod. Available as either a straight stock or in a E2 pistol grip configuration. A rubber butt plate is provided with a trap door storage compartment for field cleaning equipment.
Springfield Armory Inc. offered the whole rifle in 1986 @ retail price of $1285 and the Dealer price of $989 in the January 01, 1986 price list.
Stock number was: SA9216 M1A-SM .308 RIFLE W/SHAW E2 WALNUT STOCK W/HARRIS BIPOD.
The Stock was offered by its self: Stock number: S65820 M1A SHAW E-2 WALNUT STK W/HARRIS BIPOD (INCLUDES HARDWARE) Retail price was $ 289.00 and Dealer price of $222.00

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Nice rifle. Just wondering is the stock bedded?

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That is the rare Shaw E2 "combat" stock" - and it is only the 2nd one that I have ever seen. I own one of the "standard" Shaw E2 stocks without the increased thickness that is provided for a Harris bipod.
From the 1986 SAI catalog:
Shaw E2 Combat Stock (not shown) - Another special walnut stock that's built with increased thickness in the front to accommodate a Harris bipod. Available as either a straight stock or in a E2 pistol grip configuration. A rubber butt plate is provided with a trap door storage compartment for field cleaning equipment.
Springfield Armory Inc. offered the whole rifle in 1986 @ retail price of $1285 and the Dealer price of $989 in the January 01, 1986 price list.
Stock number was: SA9216 M1A-SM .308 RIFLE W/SHAW E2 WALNUT STOCK W/HARRIS BIPOD.
The Stock was offered by its self: Stock number: S65820 M1A SHAW E-2 WALNUT STK W/HARRIS BIPOD (INCLUDES HARDWARE) Retail price was $ 289.00 and Dealer price of $222.00
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Thank you for that information. Is it possible to get a copy of that section of your catalog. I would love to keep it for my records.
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Nice rifle. Just wondering is the stock bedded?
Thank you and Yes it is. Reddish brown bedding material

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NICE! I wish these stocks were still available. Congrats on one sweet rifle!

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Brother Jagerschnapps1: You are better off without the rear lug anyway. Nice set-up. Keep it clean.

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Awesome Rifle!

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