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Old August 24th, 2017, 06:28 PM   #61
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Thanks to Jon Wolfe company, I am very pleased with the finish look and fit of my two new Bula M14 Trigger Guards.

I am hard pressed to see any difference from the NOS USGI ones I own. Upon receiving another trigger guard, which I learned the hard way was a SAI aftermarket, the SAI was harder to close, so scrapped that one for the Bula.

Bula gets five stars on these, and their trigger housings!!!!!
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I can't but help but wonder if the SAI trigger guard is cast, instead of forged?

As we all know, the trigger guard "locks in" the receiver, and...

I'm sure forged steel is almost mandatory for this function!

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Old August 25th, 2017, 09:34 AM   #62
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I don't know how the SA Inc trigger guard is made, just the curve falls too short of lining up the trigger guard tab to the trigger housing tab slot. Which makes it a real struggle to pull the guard downward while forcing up to lock in place, just to get it to line up with the locking tab slot - regardless how tight the lock up would be otherwise.

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I don't know how the SA Inc trigger guard is made, just the curve falls too short of lining up the trigger guard tab to the trigger housing tab slot. Which makes it a real struggle to pull the guard downward while forcing up to lock in place, just to get it to line up with the locking tab slot - regardless how tight the lock up would be otherwise.
That hole in the trigger guard is there for the purpose of applying outward force to bring it to the latch hole.

Put a GI tool in that hole and apply leverage to open that guard to the latch point.. The guard has a spring like tension.

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I know about the hole for the tool. The SA Inc. Guard was a little too extreme. The Bula Trigger Guards are perfect !

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Actually to "tune" the trigger guard...

You should "bend/move" the tip (end) of the guard to where it will JUST, slip past the end/tip of the trigger, when swung down to lock !

This will give you maximum lockup when it is latched!

I'm sure a forged trigger guard, would also be more user friendly, in this aspect also!!!
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Bula for You !

It takes all kinds, lol.

Years ago I bought a USGI NOS Trigger, new in the wrap. I was the first ever to open it. The guard curve portion was so poorly formed that the safety was inside the "loop" even though the safety was not engaged. My thumb could barely go through. Fortunately, the vendor saw reason and gave me an exchange.

So far, three Bula Trigger Housings and two Bula Trigger Guards with no issues.

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Well....Maybe I'm making to much of it?

Seems everyone is VERY happy with the CAST trigger housings!

Seems the parts that NEED to be forged, ARE in the trigger group!

I'm finally getting started into fiddling with Bula parts for the Three-Eyed Red Wolfe...

The sticker on the bag of the trigger housing says 'Forged'. Picked up the parts kit during last year's 'Camp Perry' sale... FWIW.

Interestingly, I was trying the fit of the trigger group into the receiver, as a pre-fit check. No kidding about the tight fit. Tapping with a mallet, both in and out does the job. I would find this annoying if I was pulling it apart on a regular basis, though perhaps if I did such a thing, it would loosen up.

Trigger group needed some working in too before it would actually release the hammer with a trigger pull. Didn't actually do any 'fitting' in terms of stoning or adjusting anything, just pushing parts on parts. Was like the *I AM NOT A MACHINE GUN* part wasn't letting it go fully. Don't know what it was, but it fixed itself, seems to work fine now. Looking forward to having a functional mess!

Not complaining, so far, so good, just different from what I'm used to.

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I'm finally getting started into fiddling with Bula parts for the Three-Eyed Red Wolfe...

The sticker on the bag of the trigger housing says 'Forged'. Picked up the parts kit during last year's 'Camp Perry' sale... FWIW.
You're correct. They are now making FORGED trigger housings.

https://m14forum.com/bula-defense-sy...-housings.html


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[seagiant] Hi,
I've been gathering parts for an ALL BULA XM-21 build in a SAGE EBR stock.

I've got everything but a Bula Trigger group.

I'm trying to keep all of the parts in the FORGED column if I can.

Is Bula forging their Trigger housings yet?

I see forged trigger guards hammers, ect. on the Wolff gun site???

[QUOTE]seagiant I am very interested in this BULA XM21 build, please keep us updated with this project! I am considering the BULA Traditional M14 22" Modified USGI vs. the Springfield M1A Standard 22" model for my first M1A project, besides price popular belief is BULA DEFENSE to be a superior choice. What are your thoughts???

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bulaforged trigger group

Yes they do I called yesterday forged housing go for 175.$ and cast go for 75.$

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Confirming that BULA Defense are making FORGED Trigger Housings. Received this one from Tony the other day. It is very,very nice indeed
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I've been gathering parts for an ALL BULA XM-21 build in a SAGE EBR stock.

I've got everything but a Bula Trigger group.

I'mtrying to keep all of the parts in the FORGED column if I can.

Is Bula forging their Trigger housings yet?

I see forged trigger guards hammers, ect. on the Wolff gun site???
While the other parts normally forged do not specifically have a call out in the notes specifying the forging process, they do specify a grain size that would be hard to meet with casting.

The grain size requirement for the trigger housing, P/N 7267030, was removed from the drawing some time ago, allowing to casting to be used. I doubt anyone would invest in creating a forging die for something that doesn't require it.

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Bula invested in the forging dies. I've seen a few forgings too.

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I think that “forging” also includes steel bars that come out of a roller mill if the reduction ratio is great enough or if bars reworked at a forge. In any case Bula could buy the proper forged bar stock machine the housing and it is technically a forged part.

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I think that “forging” also includes steel bars that come out of a roller mill if the reduction ratio is great enough or if bars reworked at a forge. In any case Bula could buy the proper forged bar stock machine the housing and it is technically a forged part.
While the process is technically a form of "forging", that type of steel is referred to a "rolled steel", as in "hot-rolled steel" or "cold-rolled steel".

Closed die forging is what every one around here calls "forging". And, usually starts with a sawed off chunk of bar-stock (which can be rolled), that is heated and placed in a die.

And, milling a trigger housing out of bar-stock would be hideously wasteful. You would have to start with a piece about 1-3/4" thick x 4-1/4" long x 2" tall, and whittle away about 92% of the material.

The original forgings were a lot closer to net shape.

Personally, I can't see the benefit of forging something made of 1141 steel, other than a frivolous expense or bragging rights.


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