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Old August 14th, 2017, 12:31 PM   #31
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I changed out the SAI trigger in my Scout with parts I got from the CMP(M1). It got a bit heavier. Not a lot, but noticeable.
I think perhaps you got older.

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Old August 14th, 2017, 01:31 PM   #32
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Ok, I got it!

I'll have to say, I think that was a darn good deal!

I'm taking my time gathering parts, but should be able to build this rifle on a decent budget!

I can't thank, the people at Bula Machine enough, for making these great parts!!!

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Old August 14th, 2017, 01:37 PM   #33
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I was turned on to this ad on another Forum...

By a Member here!

I conveyed my thanks for that!!!

Told the seller I would take it, we will see?

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He didn't mention the Bula cast safety.

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From Different, on a thread 7 years ago:

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K8 and KMT were both markings of Killeen Machine & Tool Co. (Worcester, MA). Bill Ricca and I were able to verify this without a doubt. KMT was a subcontractor for M14 parts to Harrington & Richardson Arms and the U. S. government Springfield Armory.

As an aside, the USGI drawing for the M14 safety allows it to be made from a casting or a wrought material.

So a cast safety from Bula is still "within spec."

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Old August 14th, 2017, 02:12 PM   #35
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He didn't mention the Bula cast safety.

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He said BULA Parts are Trigger housing and trigger guard.

All other parts are USGI???

Bula Trigger Guard is forged.

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He said BULA Parts are Trigger housing and trigger guard.

All other parts are USGI???

Bula Trigger Guard is forged.
Yes Sir the Bula trigger guard is forged, the safety in the picture you provided is not a USGI safety but a Bula. Just an observation and nothing more. I am sure Bula is putting out quality products.

I am glad they started making forged gas cylinders, I did not like the way the cast looked, and this just another observation.

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Old August 14th, 2017, 04:49 PM   #37
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As long as Bula Defense Systems keeps filling my orders for parts I am a happy camper. I use both cast and forged gas cylinders and they function and that is without question. At present, my most accurate M-14 is using a cast gas cylinder. I think what is important, an often overlooked, is the machining of the rough casting or forging into a reliable finished product.



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Old August 14th, 2017, 05:36 PM   #38
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That's a pretty sight nf1e!

I'll have to take a pic of my stash when I get home!

I'm actually getting there myself!

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Old August 14th, 2017, 06:45 PM   #39
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Bula triggers are powdered metal (PM). I think, but do not know for sure, so are their hammers.

I believe forged (USGI) is best, I believe Rolled Plate Steel is a close second. I also believe cast is a distant fourth. What I don't know, is where PM falls between #2 and #4, but would not be surprised to find out they are actually pretty good.

Bula has developed a really good reputation for a reason. I think their engineering is better than most, and I think their manufacturing techniques are better than Springfield.

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Bula triggers are powdered metal (PM). I think, but do not know for sure, so are their hammers.

I believe forged (USGI) is best, I believe Rolled Plate Steel is a close second. I also believe cast is a distant fourth. What I don't know, is where PM falls between #2 and #4, but would not be surprised to find out they are actually pretty good.

Bula has developed a really good reputation for a reason. I think their engineering is better than most, and I think their manufacturing techniques are better than Springfield.

Time moves on and I see no reason a (PM) pressure cast part would not be the equal to an older forged item... Technology?

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Folks. I've never put a trigger together before until tonight.
My Bula parts kits came in today. Very impressive quality.
So, I watched the Tony Ben video (donation on the way, BTW) and had a trigger put together in 20 minutes. Good stuff!

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Folks. I've never put a trigger together before until tonight.
My Bula parts kits came in today. Very impressive quality.
So, I watched the Tony Ben video (donation on the way, BTW) and had a trigger put together in 20 minutes. Good stuff!
Just thinking of time. In boot camp in 1966 we had to take our trigger groups apart, put the loose parts in our covers and on command put it back together in less than a minute. After a little practice even 30 seconds seems like an eternity.

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Just thinking of time. In boot camp in 1966 we had to take our trigger groups apart, put the loose parts in our covers and on command put it back together in less than a minute. After a little practice even 30 seconds seems like an eternity.
I can remember having to rip apart and reassemble an M60 blindfolded.

Drills like that are why most original parts now look and fit like crap.

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I can remember having to rip apart and reassemble an M60 blindfolded.

Drills like that are why most original parts now look and fit like crap.
I think that had something to do with " close enough for govt. work".
Even new parts often fit like crap.

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Back in the day, I was able to disassemble the M60 in 15 seconds. That was a long time ago and I only had a couple of weeks to play with them. It would take me a long time today.

I always loved taking the MA-Deuce apart. I still remember the old headspace and timing gauge. It's been nearly 20 years since I touched one of those. I know it's been a lot longer than that for many on this board.

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