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Old August 13th, 2017, 07:43 PM   #16
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I have 6 of the Bula trigger groups. All I did was assemble them. They are nice. I talked to Jeff the other day and he expressed concerns about manufacturing costs for the forged housings. If I understood him correctly he stated he was unsure if they would sell due to the higher cost to manufacture.

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I have 6 of the Bula trigger groups. All I did was assemble them. They are nice. I talked to Jeff the other day and he expressed concerns about manufacturing costs for the forged housings. If I understood him correctly he stated he was unsure if they would sell due to the higher cost to manufacture.
I believe that since USGI trigger housings are getting harder to find, and more expensive, Bula could probably charge a pretty penny for theirs and expect to get it.

I think generally (from my limited knowledge) a NOS USGI housing is going for $150-$180 right now. Don't know how much Bula would charge for one of their forged housings, but I sure would like to know. Maybe if Bula could give us an estimate, they could get more feedback as to whether it would be cost effective to manufacture them.

If I could get one for the same price or less than a NOS USGI housing, I'd be on it like white on rice.

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I would be on board for several as well

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I would be on board for several as well
Truly NOS trigger housing go for far more than $150-$180 more like $220- $300 if you can even find them.

So few are actually new that putting an accurate price on then is difficult at best.

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Most of the complaints about SAI. come from their cheap cast parts and overall quality to keep profits high.

I would think there would be a demand for high quality forged parts, even if it means paying 30% more.

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I've yet to hear of an SAI cast trigger housing failing. After thousands of rounds, the pin holes may deform a bit, but that can happen with any housing.

Only time will tell if the Bula cast housings will hold up. I would be interested in a forged one as well.

Cast hammers are another story. All hammers should be forged.

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How can a TG housing fail where anyone would give a rat's as* if it was forged or cast? The only thing that can wear out is the spline. What else can wear out? Nothing moves. It's a box with a few holes in it and a spline to guide it into place when installing.

I think you all are thinking way to hard on this looking to improve something that doesn't need to be improved.

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How can a TG housing fail where anyone would give a rat's as* if it was forged or cast? The only thing that can wear out is the spline. What else can wear out? Nothing moves.
Splines don't really wear out. They get deformed from idiots (mostly recruits) trying to force them in at the wrong angle. If folks would take the time to line them up and insert the housing straight in, the splines would last a lifetime.

Hammer pin holes can eventually get egg shaped if the metal is soft. It usually takes thousands of rounds.

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How can a TG housing fail where anyone would give a rat's as* if it was forged or cast? The only thing that can wear out is the spline. What else can wear out? Nothing moves. It's a box with a few holes in it and a spline to guide it into place when installing.

I think you all are thinking way to hard on this looking to improve something that doesn't need to be improved.
I believe Art Banks had a couple no name cast trigger housings fail, he replaced them.

The original USGI Specs called for forged trigger housings for a reason.

Kimber to cut costs have gone to cast parts and folks are complaining.

Just sayn.

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I believe Art Banks had a couple no name cast trigger housings fail, he replaced them.

The original USGI Specs called for forged trigger housings for a reason.

Kimber to cut costs have gone to cast parts and folks are complaining.

Just sayn.

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Nope, never has any trigger housings fail.
I did pick up a bunch of $129. new trigger groups that had crappy hammers and trigger/sears. Ended up just replacing the mim parts with USGI from the stash and everybody is happy.
In this situation, the trigger housing, whether cast or forged makes no difference to me. I don't believe Jeff would market a product unless he had total confidence in it.


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Splines don't really wear out. They get deformed from idiots (mostly recruits) trying to force them in at the wrong angle. If folks would take the time to line them up and insert the housing straight in, the splines would last a lifetime.

Hammer pin holes can eventually get egg shaped if the metal is soft. It usually takes thousands of rounds.
Holes getting olongated is likely weak, cheap, or inferior metal being used (i.e.: Chinese), not a forged vs cast process issue. But regardless, your talking many thousands of rounds to effect it , if it can be affected.

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Nope, never has any trigger housings fail.
I did pick up a bunch of $129. new trigger groups that had crappy hammers and trigger/sears. Ended up just replacing the mim parts with USGI from the stash and everybody is happy.
In this situation, the trigger housing, whether cast or forged makes no difference to me. I don't believe Jeff would market a product unless he had total confidence in it.


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I did the same.
I picked a few of those TG for $99 from keepshooting a while back and replaced the hammer with USGI.

They work just fine.

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I did the same.
I picked a few of those TG for $99 from keepshooting a while back and replaced the hammer with USGI.

They work just fine.
Yep, dems da ones.

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I changed out the SAI trigger in my Scout with parts I got from the CMP(M1). It got a bit heavier. Not a lot, but noticeable.

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