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Old May 14th, 2020, 04:18 PM   #1
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I bought my first M1A a little bit ago and am ready to scope it. It’s a loaded model and I will be putting a Sadlak mount on it. I don’t know what rings to put on it though. I will be keeping the rear sight, and would like the scope just over the top of it. I was think Leupold Mark IV medium height rings. I would like to get the lowest cheek weld possible. Any help would be appreciated.

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Old May 14th, 2020, 04:29 PM   #2
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Medium rings will almost always work, but many scopes can be mounted with low rings. The trick is to maintain clearance of the eye piece over the rear sight aperture. Only a 32nd of an inch is required.

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Old May 14th, 2020, 04:44 PM   #3
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I have a scoped M1A with the Sadlak Airborne Mount. My (NF 2.5-10x42) scope is mounted in low Badger Ordnance steel rings. This is perfectly adequate for rear sight clearance but the objective bell gets in the way of a clean picture with the irons; I'd have to remove the scope to use them effectively. If I had selected a scope with a 32mm instead of 42mm objective it'd probably be fine. I have considered bumping up to medium rings so I wouldn't have to pull the scope to shoot with irons.

Regardess of what you go with you'll need some kind of cheek riser to get a proper weld with a scope.

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Old May 14th, 2020, 04:50 PM   #4
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Pretty sure I ran low ARMS 22s with that set up

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Old May 15th, 2020, 05:51 AM   #5
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As mentioned earlier: what scope (objective) are you mounting? Hopefully you have acquired a steel mount. A set of ARMS QD rings and/or mount will work in easily detaching the scope, while leaving the mount on the rifle and using the irons. SEI, Badger, GG&G all make high-end sniper-grade rings of 3 height levels.

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Old May 15th, 2020, 06:40 AM   #6
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As mentioned earlier: what scope (objective) are you mounting? Hopefully you have acquired a steel mount. A set of ARMS QD rings and/or mount will work in easily detaching the scope, while leaving the mount on the rifle and using the irons. SEI, Badger, GG&G all make high-end sniper-grade rings of 3 height levels.
The scope is a vortex viper pst 2-10x32 Gen II. The scope rings I have in mind besides the leupold are LaRue Ultra low mounts, but I’m certainly open to all the suggestions given so far

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Old May 15th, 2020, 09:45 AM   #7
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I use a Basset low mount with SEI HD EDM 30mm steel rings. The scope is a 8.5-25x50mm Lupy Mk4 LR/T. I was surprised that the 50mm bell on the scope was not in the way either with hitting the receiver or sight picture interference while looking through the scope. Back end of the scope easily clears the rear sight. I have another Basset high mount on another M14 to use the scope and irons. On both I use a Tac-Pro cheek riser. -Lloyd

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Old May 15th, 2020, 10:13 AM   #8
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ARMS 22 QD rings / ARMS 18 mount / B&L Elite 4x16 mounted on my M1A SportMaster , as low as she'll go.

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Old May 15th, 2020, 04:43 PM   #9
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They say 16 penny's = 1 inch. set your scope on a stack of pennys and buy the scope ring that match the height you want.

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Old May 15th, 2020, 04:54 PM   #10
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I’m another to recommend Badger Ordnance...I went with the low (0.92”)

Plenty of clearance and I am running a 44mm objective
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Old May 15th, 2020, 05:24 PM   #11
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Generally, you would want to get the scope as close to the bore as possible; mainly for cheek-weld purposes. Unfortunately, the M1A is not an ideal rifle to mount a scope. The lowest rings you can fit will still require a fairly high stock riser. The one M1A I've fired with a Sadlak mount had the scope so high, it was unnatural even with the stock riser.

I do not know how practical it is to use the iron sights with scope mounted. If it were my rifle, I'd run the lowest rings possible... Badger standard are among the lowest at .823". My M1A has a receiver mounted rail that is considerably lower than the side-mount style, and Badger standard rings fit fine with a 40mm objective.

Not the best pic, but shows a VXR Patrol 3-9x40 mocked up with 1.0" Night Force rings. Note the amount of comb rise required for good cheek weld.



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Old May 16th, 2020, 07:14 AM   #12
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Arms 18 Mount w/Arms QD 22 Low rings. Cheap 30mm tube Center point optic. Quick release the rings, and you can use the irons.



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Old May 30th, 2020, 03:05 PM   #13
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You have the gun, you have the scope - if you've picked up the mount you'll be wise to listen to advice on which rings that work - the other advice is the cheek riser, this is also a must for repeatability. I use the Basset high mount with a Viper PST scope - and LOVE the one screw removal for iron sights....just in case you have not purchased said scope mount yet..........that would be a very viable option. For cheek riser on the wood stock I use a Bradley's kydex strap on. With the Archangel stock it's a built in option - I went with one of those for the pistol grip hold, the rail up front for the bipod, and obviously the cheek riser. The one screw removal on the Basset has you putting it back on and being within one MOA (in case your wondering).

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Thunderlips,

If I were you I would take a strong look at the bassett mount. I am very new to the M1A/M14 platform and did a ton of reading on here and watched basically all of Tonyben's videos and finally made my decision with a bassett low mount with Vortex low tactical rings. The basset mount is of the utmost quality and the ease in removing is simply amazing.

I have no experience with ARMS or Sadlak but I can tell you of you go bassett, you can buy with confidence.

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Old May 30th, 2020, 05:57 PM   #15
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I went with a Nightforce with their 1" rings on my M21DMR.
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