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Old May 14th, 2020, 05:02 PM   #16
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[QUOTE=IRON WORKER;

I tried to get one of those raw forging and was told no.[/QUOTE]

Sorry man! I tried to get you one, but I was told to tell you no...

I was told no too.

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Old May 14th, 2020, 05:13 PM   #17
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Sorry man! I tried to get you one, but I was told to tell you no...

I was told no too.
I know you did and I appreciate your trying , good thing is if I really want to I can just make my own forging .

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Old May 14th, 2020, 06:37 PM   #18
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I know you did and I appreciate your trying , good thing is if I really want to I can just make my own forging .[/QUOTE]

Would have been really cool to see how your receiver turned out.

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I am just amazed at the before and after appearance of Bula's XM21.
Photo shows an XM21 with a raw forging and a gas cylinder and raw forging. Now making something out of that would be a real diy project.
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Old May 14th, 2020, 06:43 PM   #20
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I cannot speak for anyone, but my speculation is that they no longer sell receivers because of the inherent customer support cost involved in educating buyers, in that while an experienced assembler/armoror/gunsmith will directly deal with 'fitting' issues, which seem to be fairly common, across all manufacturers, your average hobbyist like myself will suck up all sorts of time seeking expertise, often considering a fitment issue defective, and there may indeed be a an defect, time to time, but where a known party can not only more quickly make that determination, Bula (or any vendor) can also trust that known party and not spend their own time making that determination.

If I did want just a Bula receiver, I would talk to TonyBen about it, and see if something can be worked out, as far as maybe paying him to do a complete parts fitting inspection, as well as determining that he's comfortable with experience/skill level of the person putting it together, so that if there is any issue, he can be assured that he can assist working through it, on the clock or not, and buffer Bula from the additional overhead. If it were me, I would expect to pay for this process, and even so still wouldn't hold it against TonyBen if he didn't want to participate in such a thing. It will undoubtedly add cost, one way or another, as it adds time, but if I wanted a raw Bula receiver, that's what I would pursue. Building your own has never been about cost-effectiveness anyway.

It's a long way off, as other obligations often come up, and right now is a wave of non-m14 type items, but at such time I get to an XM-21 receiver, I would definitely want it to go through TonyBen's inspection for fitting of associated parts before assembly, at the very least, before I even took ownership, and maybe simply have him do bolt and barrel spin up/fitting/headspace anyway, as he seem to be good at it, and I've never even used a reamer. Plus, the one time I built on a Bula receiver, I had to appeal to both him and Josh anyway for both assurance and technique, so why not get it out of the way on the front end instead of getting stuck halfway and frustrated?

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I'm just poor trying to piece another m1a together off parts. Wanna build a tanker build

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There's always Fulton. Not forged, but they seem to work just fine.

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Old May 14th, 2020, 07:42 PM   #22
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I can still get stripped receivers if they have any in stock. So far, just XM21 and M21 DMR receivers available. No standard ones right now.

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I talked to Jeff today. I know for a fact they just did a run of M21DMR receivers because he is sending me one. Last week I received an xm21 as well.

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Old May 15th, 2020, 02:06 AM   #24
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All sorts of good things happening at Bula.
They are working on final details for their website now. Expect about 2 wees or so before it goes live. They have ramped up most parts. Things are going well.
Photo shows small parts from Bula that came in yesterday to complete the assembly of the barreled action in earlier photos that I purchased from a forum member. Thanks John. Gonna make another nice rifle. Finishing up a walnut stock from Fred's for her to nest in.


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I would like to thank John 4570 govt for selling me the XM21 barreled action which was the base for this rifle. Haven't quite decided on which optic to mount.
This ended up being all Bula except for stock, sling and SEI vortex and most importantly, one of Hawk's fine AMBI kits.













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nf1e looks more like an art form.

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If they ever decide to do an M1 Garand receiver...

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Old May 17th, 2020, 10:00 AM   #28
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Those receiver forgings would make nice a cigar holder!!

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Old May 30th, 2020, 02:25 PM   #29
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Thanks for posting those receiver and gas tube forgings at first look on texture and the parting line they almost look cast........but the flash nubs from a closed die forging would be the same - and all the angles seem to roll to the outside for release like a closed die forging would.

One can easily see why CNC machining is so mandatory on making these parts now - imagine hand cutting all that away that does NOT look like a receiver! Talk about stock removal! Wow.

They must have a hell of a press to hobb those die halves to such accuracy then they'd have to cut flash troughs into the die halves so the stuff spooges out into flash to remove. Spooge is a highly technical term in metal working (at least in blacksmithing)

They must use CNC now to cut the flash troughs - older machinists used to use shapers in die making. Fascinating trade. I make tools and dies - but all for open die forging..........not closed die forging - that's another whole level of die making........and I respect the hell out of who ever is doing it! They are way smarter than me.
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Some wonder why these rifles cost so much

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