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Brand new, never opened heel stamped Poly-Tech M-14

5.5K views 27 replies 15 participants last post by  charlie98  
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My son asked me yesterday if I wanted another Poly-Tech M-14 rifle. I asked him if it's heel or side stamped.

He got the guy on the phone and I talked with him about his rifle that he was trying to sell at auction on Facebook. He told me that the M-14/S is an early heel stamped preban Poly-Tech with a serial number of well under 300.

He went on to explain that the rifle was still sealed inside its plastic factory packaging in cosmoline, just as it left the factory back in the late 80s. The factory cardboard box also contains one new 20 round and two ten round factory mags, along with the sling and the paper work.

I tried to get him off of his buy now price of $1000.00 but he would not budge. He told me that he knows what he has and if I want it his buy now price is $1000.00.

I asked him if he would provide a good, signed bill of sale because I'm a retired cop and I refuse to buy hot stuff and the rifle will be run through NCIC to check for stolen.

He told me no problem, since he bought it from the guy who originally bought it back in the day. So I told him I'd take the rifle under those stipulations. My son who travels the state, in his job will pick it up for me, since the guy is located about 100 miles distant. My son is supposed to meet him this coming Wednesday and pick up our newest M-14.

This will make four Poly-Techs, three of which are low serial numbered heel stamped plus the IDE Mich Imports side stamped that I bought late last summer along with my still new and unfired preban SAI M-1A.

I'm really happy with this deal since I paid $975.00 last year for the side stamped Poly which while new and unfired, wasn't still NIB sealed in the original shipping plastic as this one is. I plan to leave this Poly M-14/S in it's unmolested, NIB condition, never to be opened since we already have plenty of excellent shooters.

For my purposes I'd rather have this excellent forged receiver heel stamped Poly-Tech than anything SAI has built in many years. The sweet things is I already have everything on hand that I need to convert it over to all USGI M14 parts. I will put those GI parts into the box with this M-14, for future generations to use should they ever wish to do so. If another Poly-Tech M-14/S comes up down the road before the hard times arrive I'll buy it too... That is if I have any money left for investment in tangibles at that time.

All of this is a part of my long term plan for turning the money in my savings account into tangible items that will convert those federal reserve notes into things that will retain real value during the coming economic unpleasantness our country is facing.

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#5 ·
Agreed...I'd really like to see one NIP....(new in plastic)!

GI2

Sounds almost...'unbelievable'...I hope it's For Real!

CAVman in WYoming
 
#4 ·
Great find Seventh Fleet, good luck with the build.


DI5
 
#6 ·
im am sooooo freaking jealous! ive been looking for another heel marked under 500 in serial range for so long. the one i have now is 461 and its the best receiver i have ever owned. they machined those very early ones very well and the one i have is on par with a saw cut H&R that i compared it to extensivley with calipers. It took a gi bolt easier than any of the polys ive done bolt conversions on. ive been trying to find another with no luck. theres one on gunbroker that is very close to mine but the seller wants 2,700$!!! i even offered to try and work out a trade for an lrb i had and the snobbie seller wasnt interested, unbelievable
 
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Boomer1983 the serial numbers on my two heel stamped Polys are 098X, 057X and the IDE Mich side stamped is 0713X. My preban SAI M-1A is in the 65,85X range. I did the same as you did with your saw cut H&R except I used a TRW and two H&R M-14's that I acquired from the Feds 1033 program for my PD.

I had exclusive use of them up until I retired when I signed them over to my deputy chief on June 1st, 04, until they could appoint my replacement following the election in August. I even had a say in who would get my old job since I ran for a seat on the city council and won after I retired. When I was elected in August I served on the committee to find and appoint my replacement for police chief of the city.

Anyhow, I had exclusive use of those three USGI M-14s from around 1998 until I retired in 2004 and I kept the two H&R's secured in my home gun vault and I kept the TRW with the selector installed in the trunk of my Crown Vic as a patrol rifle.

Many was the time I'd take one of those USGI M-14's and break it down to measure the receivers with my digital mike and calipers and compared them with my first heel stamped Poly-Tech M-14/S that I owned at the time. It was downright eerie that they were so close in all of the receiver dimensions.

I did the same thing on my 100 yard home firing range when it came to off the bench accuracy from a solid rest. There wasn't a dimes worth of difference in the accuracy between the USGI M-14's chrome lined barrels and the chrome lined barrel on my first Poly M-14/S when fired with the same Port 7.62x51 and Lake City 7.62 match ammo. My experience has been the same with the last two Poly's that I've acquired since I retired.

Just as soon as I get the new one I'll update this thread as much as possible with the serial number and some pics of the rifle in the box if I can figure out how to do it.

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#10 · (Edited)
Here's the update on my latest Poly-Tech M-14/S.

The guy was as good as his word and the rifle is brand new still in the sealed plastic factory bag, however it's not a heel stamped Poly-Tech.

It's a side stamped IDE Mich Imports Poly just like the 7K range that I bought new but with out the box for $975.00 last year.

The guy was wrong about the mags as well, since it came with one 20 round factory and two five round mags. He obviously doesn't know much about M-14's and their magazines.

But that's neither here nor there and I'm not disappointed in my latest 9500 range side stamped Poly-tech. Because it is brand new and unopened in the original box as advertised and the box isn't beat up from being abused over the past 30 odd years.

It also doesn't have a USGI lugged flash suppressor, instead its equipped with one of the post ban closed flash suppressors without the bayonet lug. This isn't a big deal either since I have several USGI spares in my M14 stuff that I bought in the distant past for little or nothing. I'll put one of them in the box and in the future after I'm long gone my heirs can install it on the rifle if they wish. In the mean time it will remain new in the box sealed inside of its clear factory plastic, coated in the factory cosmoline.

An upside is that it came with a very nicely figured Chinese Manchurian walnut stock as best as I can tell through the plastic packaging which means I won't have to use one of my CMP M-14 stocks on this one. All in all I'm proud of my #4 NIB forged receiver Poly-Tech M-14 and I will be on the look out for more in the future.

Finances allowing of course.

Before bringing it home this PM, my son took it by the large law firm that he works for which has a retired Army Colonel who's a lawyer on staff there and he had an absolute fit over the M-14 and wanted to buy it. When my son called me, I told him bring it home and tell the Colonel sorry no dice, she's not for sale.

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#16 · (Edited)
Darn son!!! That's as low as I've ever seen. I have two heel stamped Polys that are under 1000 and I was tickled pink to get my grubby paws on them. You need to list yours on Different's Poly-Tech M-14 page here on this forum. Yours may set a record for being the lowest serial numbered one but I can't remember. I'll have to do a search to find that thread again and sign my newest addition as well.

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#19 ·
Sorry about that Boomer...now that I think about it I do remember you messaging me right after I got it. I only sold it because the guy wanted it much more than me and threw out an insane proposition. Do I regret it? Maybe a little, but if I think about all of the guns that I sold then I would really be sick.
 
#22 ·
No I haven't and I don't plan to since this rifle has not been opened since it left the factory and I won't open it either. I have two heel stamped Polys, one fitted with TRW parts and the other with USGI Springfield so I've been there and done that. The last side stamped IDE Mich that I traded for last year has had a Garand rear sight, one of those commercial trigger groups, lugged flash suppressor, USGI stock, connector and a few other odds and ends done to it. But I haven't touched the bolt and I may not since I only have one TRW bolt left in my stash and I plan to use it with an M-14 kit that I bought from LRB a couple of years back. I may pick up a Fulton or LRB bolt if I ever do change the factory bolt out.

I wanted this one just for the uniqueness of having something that's been around this long and has never even been opened. It's more of an investment thing, not that I'd ever willingly sell any of my stuff, be it M-14's or vintage motorcycles.

At this late date in life, thankfully I can afford to pamper my sensibilities with little idiosyncrasies such as this. I mean after all what's it actually costing me other than the initial purchase price of the rifle, which could be considered as being a hedge against future runaway inflation.

Hey Different, while I'm thinking about it please add my latest side stamped IDE Mich Poly-Tech serial 950X to your data base....

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#24 ·
I have had several very low numbered heel stamped Poly Tech M-14's. The rifles I have gone through in this serial number range have some of the best civilian M-14 type semi-auto receivers I have seen. Interestingly enough, I have found that the very low serial number, heel Stamped Poly Tech's that I have examined tend to have DANGEROUSLY tight head space, USGI bolts typically fit very well with very little lapping when installed with a USGI barrel.

Always confirm headspace and bolt lug contact before firing!!!!
 
#25 ·
You are exactly right and my first Poly with the TRW bolt ended up head spacing at 1.630 which is on the tight side but within specs, with excellent engagement and I've never had an issue with it. I could have continued lapping for a bit more but I was concerned with ruining my bolt so I stopped and have been happy with the results.

The thing absolutely loves my 7.62 hand loads which come in between 1.627/1.628 and readily drop into the chamber. I've shot both factory .308 and 7.62 NATO in it with no issues. I've heard of some SAI M-1A's having even tighter head space than 1.630 with no reported problems. I guess that's one of the things that makes the M14 such a great rifle is that they're so flexible.

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#26 ·
Mattidude, you may be the winner. I also have a question, as I am not very knowledgable on M14's. I am trying to catalog the facts as quickly as possible in the MKI Noggin. What is the biggest differences in the side vs. heel stamped guns? I have owned one of the side stamped models but sold it off for something else...
 
#27 ·
For all practical purposes most folks who buy these rifles do so for their excellent forged steel receivers and that's it in a nutshell.

Both the heel stamped and side stamped also have excellent chrome lined barrels and good to go, forged one piece op rods. The Poly-Techs are superior in these respects to anything SAI has turned out in years. Because SA Inc uses cast commercial Tiawanese parts and commercial unlined barrels all assembled on a cast steel receiver.

The stocks on the side stamped models are much nicer. The early heel stamped models had ugly, soft Chinese Chu wood stocks, which while funcional were nothing to write home about. While the later side stamped models have nice, useable Manchurian walnut stocks.

Other than this there's very little difference.

Most M-14 guys prefer the heel stamped models simply because they are much rarer and closer to the real USGI M-14's which were stamped on the heel. Which makes heel stamped models just a bit closer to what the real USGI M-14's were like. When it comes down to real world functionality there's not a dimes worth of difference in my book.

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#28 ·
My brother and I ran a landscape company back in the early '90's, we had a kid working for us that was into guns as well (in fact, he had a 5.56mm chambered AK that would fairly fold the brass 30^ upon ejection... ruining all my brass!) He and his dad bought a Polytech M1a, I even got to handle it once... not even knowing what I was looking at at the time. I'm going to guess that rifle probably has less than 500 rounds through it.