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Old May 21st, 2020, 02:46 PM   #1
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Stripper Clip Guide

I'm having trouble fitting a stripper clip guide. It's way too tight. I'm thinking obviously I don't want to take metal off the gun so should I file down the guide? Won't that change the geometry of the feed? Any advice is appreciated.

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Old May 21st, 2020, 02:51 PM   #2
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Doesn't take much, but I use a good sharp triangle file on the guide dovetail. You do want a nice tight fit and they install from the left to right. Hole should line up when left side is flush with receiver base.

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Old May 21st, 2020, 04:17 PM   #3
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Thank you, this is the kind of stuff that gives me nightmares. The part is so nicely machined, or maybe cast, so I'm hesitant to not trust the manufacturer and start swarfing off metal.

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Old May 21st, 2020, 04:27 PM   #4
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Like Art said above it inserts from the left to the right.
One trick I have used a few times is to put the stripper clip guide in the freezer overnight, take out wipe down (frost) then install it while it's cold. Then be sure to bathe the area with WD-40 to displace any moisture.

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What make receiver?
What make guide?

Does the clip go in part way? Where is it rubbing?

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Old May 22nd, 2020, 08:13 AM   #6
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Thanks guys, It's a newer model SA. I do not know the make of the guide I bought it from a member here. The guide does slide in about a quarter of the way but then becomes immediately jammed. I'm going to revisit this tonight, but walking by it on the bench just now it occurs to me that it may not fit under the Basset mount anyway.

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Thanks guys, It's a newer model SA. I do not know the make of the guide I bought it from a member here. The guide does slide in about a quarter of the way but then becomes immediately jammed. I'm going to revisit this tonight, but walking by it on the bench just now it occurs to me that it may not fit under the Basset mount anyway.
Just be careful. SAI is cast and have been known to be brittle in that area and break.
It should fit under the Bassett with just a little clearance.

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If it's an SAI, it left the factory with a guide already installed. Another should fit

I've removed some from SAI rifles where I had to put the receiver in a bench vice and tap the guide out with a brass punch. They were in tight. Others have slid right out as soon as the pin was removed.

Ideally, you should get some resistance half way in, then tap it the rest of the way. Use plenty of oil. Try a different guide if necessary.

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Attached are two clip guides that I removed from SAI rifles that I scoped. The one on the right is definitely USGI an it came off a 1989 era SAI NM rifle (Glen Nelson shop). I was a little surprised by the amount of filing that they did to make it fit back in 89', but I have seen some variation in clip guide dimensions. Some go in relatively easily, and some are kind-of oversized and some gentle filing on the bottom mating surfaces is required...Just remember to be careful installing the clip guide and the roll pin too. Gorilla hammering not recommended. My 2cts.
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Old May 22nd, 2020, 09:32 AM   #10
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I didn't have a triangle file, but instead wrapped a filet knife with sandpaper, and then rubbed the sides equal numbers as flat as I could get it.

A triangle file sounds like a much better idea. removing material off the bottom may be a thing as well, though you have to see where it is actually getting jammed up. If you put it in, it gets stuck, and you look from the side and can see light between surfaces, it's not those surfaces.



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The reason Springfield and others have stopped selling stripped receivers is mostly due to inexperienced builders trying to install clip guides that were too tight and ended up breaking the receiver. The top of the dovetail is very thin and can break without much effort. I won't install a guide that won't insert at least to within 1/4 inch of complete fitting. It's better to be loose than too tight.

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The reason Springfield and others have stopped selling stripped receivers is mostly due to inexperienced builders trying to install clip guides that were too tight and ended up breaking the receiver. The top of the dovetail is very thin and can break without much effort. I won't install a guide that won't insert at least to within 1/4 inch of complete fitting. It's better to be loose than too tight.

Ted, Have you ever had one break during installation? Just curious. If so, what brand?

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What makes me wonder is the hardness of the material. I had to drill and cut threads to install a pica rail but the thread cutter got stuck and broke. A company for electro eroding cut it out and cut the threads.
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The guide does slide in about a quarter of the way but then becomes immediately jammed. I'm going to revisit this tonight, but walking by it on the bench just now it occurs to me that it may not fit under the Basset mount anyway.
Just to make sure we cover the obvious stuff before you start removing material (which can't be unremoved) - the guide only goes in one way.

You've tried sliding from the left and the right?

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The guide does slide in about a quarter of the way but then becomes immediately jammed. I'm going to revisit this tonight, but walking by it on the bench just now it occurs to me that it may not fit under the Basset mount anyway.
Just to make sure we cover the obvious stuff before you start removing material (which can't be unremoved) - the guide only goes in one way.

You've tried sliding from the left and the right?
Oh yeah definitely, I see that it only goes in one direction, thanks. I haven't managed to get back to that yet. Might take a whack(..tap) at it this evening.

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