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Old May 5th, 2020, 07:53 AM   #61
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Well, got my micrometer sight from Liberty Tree and installed last night. Really easy. I still need to file off a smidge of material next to the micrometer dial so she seats flush when put down. I'll have to check the zero later this week. I also received my Enfield front sight adjustment tool.

All is going according to plan. Hopefully, the micrometer and 0.45 front sight post agree well.

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Old May 16th, 2020, 09:43 AM   #62
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Tried her out today -managed to get the windage corrected.

With the 200 m setting, she is shooting high, which is what I was told. From the math, it seems I can just swap out the front sight blade. That said, as it is, I can get on zero by lowering the micrometer, but my graduations are off.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lee-Enfield....c100625.m3682

They have a number of options and the sight height I believe I need. What is the difference between the #3 and #1 notation on the sight manufacturers? Can you interchange manufacturer sight blades?

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Old May 16th, 2020, 10:57 AM   #63
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The PDF at this link has info on selecting the proper height front sight.

https://www.milsurps.com/content.php....4-No.5-Rifles)

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Old May 16th, 2020, 02:07 PM   #64
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I was cleaning the rifle last night, and I was looking at the sights. I realized I may have confused the witness marks on the ladder sight. Facepalm. But I wasn't exactly sure either... maybe I had moved them around a bit after zeroing?

So I took the rifle out just a bit ago. I checked the zero at 25 yards, and then 50 yards... Between the 200 m battle sight and the ladder micrometer, I actually think the +0.045 front sight works. I confirmed with my ballistics chart. Windage was spot on after one last fine adjustment. I tried it at 475 yards. I set the ladder sight to 400 m (close enough). I was then making multiple hits.

I am glad I checked the zero before ordering and messing with front sight posts. I still may need to get one that is slightly higher... maybe a +0.06.

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Old May 17th, 2020, 03:18 PM   #65
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Less recoil than a .308 or 7.5 Swiss. Much depends on shooter position and stock style. Recoil is about the same as a .30-40 Krag, all are noticeably less than a .30-06.
I just sold my Savage US Property marked No.4. Stock shape is not the best for soaking up felt recoil. I sometimes think the Brits deliberately designed the stock and buttplate to hurt more.

US commercial ammo is a bit weaker than Euro or mil-surp. I did notice a difference in felt recoil between Remington commercial (weak) , South African 'Hot Shot' and various surplus.

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I took the No.4 Mk 1* to the range yesterday. A bit windy ( 10-12mph crosswind) and I will use this excuse for my poor accuracy till I die. With the irons I finished up the session with 10 shot full mag. Managed to keep 9 inside the 9 ring and one flyer. Keeping 10rd inside a 6" black at 100yds is about the best I can do with old eyes.

These are reloaded 174 gn flat base bullets with soft points. I might try the 168 gn HPBT SMK bullets when I get a chance.
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Old May 25th, 2020, 08:06 PM   #67
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I have since moved the front sight left, and replaced the rear sight with the No. 4 Mk. 1 micrometer sight (oppose to the 300/600 m aperature No. 4 Mk. II sight).

Oddly, after switching from the 300/600 m sight, to the micrometer, the micrometer sight is almost perfectly on for elevation. Windage correction was accomplished by the front sight tool I got a bit ago -this tool is easier to do fine adjustment than the brass punch "tap tap" mode. BUT, the 200 m open aperture sight seems to shoot high. I may need to improve the fit of the sight into the receiver.

475 yards. MEN 174. Open sights. She shoots. First photo was 9/10 for hits/shots. After a tiny front sight drift adjustment, I was 5/5 for the last group (second photo). Last photo shows the 475 yard target (in the tree line just above the muzzle). I clearly need to work on my elevation holds -windage looks ok, but the groups are very tall.

I like this gun. These results make me want to put glass on it.
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That red circle can't be more than 10" in diameter? You got some excellent vision to see that at 475yds! .....plus great shooting!

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That red circle can't be more than 10" in diameter? You got some excellent vision to see that at 475yds! .....plus great shooting!
I think the painted red/orange circle is about 8 or so inches. Maybe 10". The plate is 36x24". Something like that. It isn't a small target. I also wasn't shooting at a camouflaged and armed enemy posted in the tree line. LOL. I took my time.

I mostly put the front sight post dead center on the white rectangle. I can kinda make out the red circle, but I am more trying to shoot consistently into the middle of the target. The more I shoot, the more I realize it has as much to do with feel as it does vision.

I would guess from the groups, I was shooting about 3 MOA. Which isn't bad for irons at 475 yards, and is on par with what the rifle is said to shoot. This rifle could be a good candidate to try putting some glass on it. It would be fun to do some load development too.

But at the end of the day, it definitely proves the validity of the "minute of man" principle in fighting rifles.

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