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Whatsinaname181

No brother, you dont. We as Combat Arms personell dont have a lot to show for our work except the memories and pride of knowing what we have done on the line. It ******* me off when I hear REMF's making up war stories and taking away one of the only things we have to show for our blood, sweat and tears. Now, not all support personell are sheltered behind the wire, but its been my experience that most of them are.

As far as the fake war "vets" I want to take a claw-hammer to some of these "vets" walking around telling poor-me stories about their combat experiences to gain atta-boys- and the sorry SOB's never even had the courage to raise their right hand.

Wheres the little soap box icon? haha

My 2 cents,

DS K.

sandbandit0331

Don't know what it was like in the old corps but in The Corps today you must jae a 1st class pft, and a 1st class swim qual to even try out for recon!! Then if you pass indoc you get sent to Margarita or Little Creek for training! And to become Force you have to be a recognized operator for I think it's 4 yrs and be a SNCO!! Do me a favor and everyone else a favor and kick this guy in the nut so hard he won't be able to spread the plague of stupidity!!!

RAMMAC

It was pretty much the same process when I was in (1975 - 1985, 1990 - 2000). One of my favorite movies is Heartbreak Ridge but I had to laugh because just to qualify for RECON you have to be dedicated to the job and the Corps more so than the average Marine and in the movie all those kids with attitudes wouldn't last a day in a real RECON unit. The people that do those jobs are a little different than most of us. I had a friend that always loved to say that your body will tell you when to quit...you'll pass out...and he was AGLICO rather than RECON but both are a cut above us average jarheads.

bailey

The 1986 United States bombing of Libya, code-named Operation El Dorado Canyon, comprised the joint United States Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps air-strikes against Libya on April 15, 1986. The attack was carried out in response to the 1986 Berlin discotheque bombing.

The attack began at 0200 hours (Libyan time), and lasted about twelve minutes, with 60 tons of munitions dropped. Eighteen F-111 bombers supported by four EF-111 electronic countermeasures aircraft flying from the United Kingdom bombed Tripoli airfield, a frogman training center at a naval academy, and the Bab al-Aziziya barracks in Tripoli. During the bombing of the Bab al-Aziziya barracks, an American F-111 was shot down by a Libyan SAM missile over the Gulf of Sidra. Some bombs landed off-target, striking diplomatic and civilian sites in Tripoli, while the French embassy was only narrowly missed. Some Libyan soldiers abandoned their positions in fright and confusion, and officers were slow to give orders. Libyan anti-aircraft fire did not begin until after the planes had passed over their targets. Twenty-four A-6 Intruders and F/A-18 Hornets launched from aircraft carriers bombed radar and antiaircraft sites in Benghazi before bombing the Benina and Jamahiriya barracks. A number of bombs missed their targets and hit residential areas, along with a number of Western embassies in Benghazi




Casualties

Two U.S. Air Force captains — Fernando L. Ribas-Dominicci and Paul F. Lorence — were killed when their F-111 fighter-bomber was shot down over the Gulf of Sidra. According to newspaper reports at the time, the U.S. fighter-bomber lost in the incursion had crashed due to "pilot disorientation" or "systems failure".[19]Initially the U.S. military refused to admit the fighter-bomber had been shot down with Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger suggesting that it could have experienced radio trouble or been diverted to another airfield.[20]On December 25, 1988, Gaddafi offered to release the body of Lorence to his family through Pope John Paul II. The body, returned in 1989, was identified as Ribas-Dominicci's from dental records. An autopsy conducted in Spain confirmed that he had drowned after his plane was shot down over the Gulf of Sidra. Libya denies that it holds Lorence's body. However, Lorence's brother said that he and his mother saw television footage of a Libyan holding a white helmet with the name "Lorence" stenciled on the back.[21] Furthermore, William C. Chasey, who toured the Bab al-Azizia barracks, claimed to have seen two flight suits and helmets engraved with the names "Lorence" and "Ribas-Dominicci", as well as the wreckage of their F-111.[22]
In 2001, Theodore D. Karantsalis, a reference librarian at Miami-Dade College, enlisted the aid of Congressman Wally Herger's office to petition Libya to return Lorence's remains on behalf of his family and friends. Karantsalis also created a website and invited visitors to sign a petition to Congressman Lincoln Diaz-Balart seeking the return of Capt. Lorence's remains. On January 27, 2005, Karantsalis filed a federal lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) against the Department of Defense and the Department of the Air Force seeking "to know where Captain Paul Lorence's remains are located." Karantsalis had hoped to locate the remains before the 20th anniversary of Lorence's death.

Got this off of Wikipedia. Hope this helps you out...

GCBurner

Any follow-up on what happened with the poser in the original post from last February? Did he get outed?