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This is a discussion on Chu Lai: After Action Report within the Your War forums, part of the Armed Services category; Originally Posted by CAVman Those Damn Barbers! After the Camp Evans(I Corps)Ammo Dump was Rocketed/Mortared and Totally Destroyed(1968)Army 'Intelligence' discovered that the Camp Barber was ...


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Old January 9th, 2017, 04:57 PM   #31
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Those Damn Barbers!



After the Camp Evans(I Corps)Ammo Dump was Rocketed/Mortared and Totally Destroyed(1968)Army 'Intelligence' discovered that the Camp Barber was really an NVA Captain!
Barbers see things, they hear things, they 'pace' around without arousing suspicion... Who Knew ?


Among a lot of other things...I think it shows how Arrogant(Stupid!)the U.S. Military too often was in Vietnam...
Under-estimating the Enemy...
Over-estimating Our Own Capabilities to fight a Guerilla War...
Generally allowing Chaos to overwhelm Order!

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We should have known by the lousy haircuts if nothing else. Early on we had mama-sans cleaning our tents, doing our laundry and working as gofers. We stopped letting them in our camps, but they already knew where everything was by then, so it didn't make much difference.

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Old January 9th, 2017, 05:07 PM   #32
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We even had our own volunteer fire department with tanker.

Finally, I've got one up on you; we had our own beer tent! We were suppose to have 65 men in the HQ platoon, but had only 21-25 people. We did, however, get the full two-can-per-day ration for all 65. It was pretty tough keeping the beer cold though. We dug 'fruit cellars' under our tents filled with sawdust and block ice that did a pretty good job.
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I don't remember ever seeing a hootch with awnings before. That's livin' high!
Take a look at our beer tent in my previous post. With the hardback tents, we used the side flaps as awnings. You're right though, most of the hooches I saw in Chu Lai had no awnings.

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All of my remaining photos from Viet Nam were originally slides. Never owning a slide projector, they spent almost 40 years in a Chock ful o nuts coffee can in the attic. A few years ago one of my kids found the old can and we have gradually been adding them to the computer system. I had forgotten taking most of them over the years. I had a ton of rolls of film that contained regular photos taken during my tour. Unfortunately they were confiscated at Danang on my way home because they were unprocessed film.

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Old January 9th, 2017, 05:14 PM   #35
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I see the door looks insulated. People don't realize how cold it got in VN in the winter. I "found" a goose down sleeping bag, used it, and we had oil heaters in our huts.
We use to laugh our asses off during the monsoons in late '66 when we finally got heated showers. We stand naked in our tent doorways when it was occasionally cold enough to see our breath and then dash through the rain to showers and then back through the rain to our tents where we'd dry off.

It's good to be young!

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Old January 9th, 2017, 05:16 PM   #36
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My hat is off to all you young men that put your lives on the line for us.

My lottery number was something like 105 in 1971, and I never got called up.

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Old January 9th, 2017, 05:23 PM   #37
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Hey man thank you for your service first off and thanks for the pictures and history lesson. I feel like it is an honor when one of you guys share your experiences with the rest of us . I guess one of the reasons I like the M14 rifles so much is the historic significance of the design but all of that would just be a foot note in history if it wasn't for the men who carried and used them . Thanks 4Quangs and the rest of you guys sorry I didn't put in each name but I guess I got so into the pictures and stories I forgot to do that so I had to go back and edit . The stories you guys have are important and need to be told also did any m14s with synthetic stocks get into service in Vietnam and if so how did they workout.It seems to me like the story of the m14 is almost parallel to the guys that used it in battle ,powerful,capable,adaptable but now almost forgotten .
I don't recall seeing any of the USGI fiberglass stocks over there. Every now and then some guy get one of those beautiful tiger stripe stocks, but they'd get pretty beat up in month or two. They were constantly in the dirt, muck, water and sand; the best we could do was to keep them working and we took care of our M14s before we took care of ourselves.

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Yes indeed. VMFA-115.

That's the Phantom F4 isn't it? I could tell better from a rear view. I though that was a beautiful jet.

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I know it got into the lower 60's and maybe even the upper 50's in Hue. With the rain, and being acclimated to 115 degrees, 60ish was cold.
It was really cold up at Dong Ha; that had something up there, a cold misty rain that permeated everything and chilled you to the bone. There was no getting away from the cold and wet; trying to keep dry while sleeping was a fools errand. We just rolled up in our wool blanket and slept lying in the water.

There was a French word for that special kind of rain, cretchien, craitchen or smething like that. Maybe someone remembers the word?

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All of my remaining photos from Viet Nam were originally slides. Never owning a slide projector, they spent almost 40 years in a Chock ful o nuts coffee can in the attic. A few years ago one of my kids found the old can and we have gradually been adding them to the computer system. I had forgotten taking most of them over the years. I had a ton of rolls of film that contained regular photos taken during my tour. Unfortunately they were confiscated at Danang on my way home because they were unprocessed film.
I carried my Instamatic camera in my flak jacket pocket and took many photos. I sent the exposed film home and had new film sent in return. I have five photo albums of photos I took in Vietnam. I began a project some years ago to put a caption on each photo, but like my recollections, I have yet to complete that project.

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All of my remaining photos from Viet Nam were originally slides. Never owning a slide projector, they spent almost 40 years in a Chock ful o nuts coffee can in the attic. A few years ago one of my kids found the old can and we have gradually been adding them to the computer system. I had forgotten taking most of them over the years. I had a ton of rolls of film that contained regular photos taken during my tour. Unfortunately they were confiscated at Danang on my way home because they were unprocessed film.
All of my pictures were slides and were kept in the Kodak processing boxes. After I was married, I went through them to my wife. We sorted them into the really neat, the average, the so, so pictures and the gory ones. Thank God should couldn't stand the gory pictures, and secretly, I couldn't either, so we destroyed all of the those at her bequest. (Didn't want the kids to stumble upon them).

The very best slides were placed for safe keeping and I've never seen them since. Sometime in the '90s of early 2000s, I bought a Nikon Coolscan 4000 to convert the remaining pictures to digital format.

The passing time was pretty tough on the slides; mold, fuzz, stains (most of which was probably due to the heat and moisture in Viet Nam) and fading of the dyes in the film. The Coolscan did a pretty good job of salvaging the slides with a very high resolution (4000 dpi) and had some decent software for removing spots from dusts, debris and scratches. That special infrared based scan couldn't be used on Kodachrome film as it would cause a special dye in the Kodachrome to bloom.

The I had to get Adobe Photoshop to correct for the fading and muddyness of many of the slides. It was a lot of work, but led to new hobby and I've got my pictures stored on CDS and offline hard drives.

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Great stories.
I was a Senior in High School when we pulled out at Saigon.
Thank you for your service gentlemen

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Finally, I've got one up on you; we had our own beer tent! We were suppose to have 65 men in the HQ platoon, but had only 21-25 people. We did, however, get the full two-can-per-day ration for all 65. It was pretty tough keeping the beer cold though. We dug 'fruit cellars' under our tents filled with sawdust and block ice that did a pretty good job.
A Pabst Blue Ribbon beer tent no less

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Yes, janderso57, Great Stories. But also Life!
I also graduated HS in '75 at 17. Had an older cousin who served in 'Nam and he was never 'right' when he came back... His mom had to support him.

Do thank and hold the highest regards to all who served...

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That's the Phantom F4 isn't it? I could tell better from a rear view. I though that was a beautiful jet.
Yep, that's an F-4 with me and my prided Ricoh 500 case standing there. Must have been cold at Chu Lai that day, I was wearing a jacket.

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