M14 Forum

John Crusher

The pres. said soldiers with PTSD are gonna' get more help. I think it is an end run at denying on our 2nd Amendment right. I have it as others do and since I take Meds. for it, I'm screwed. I need to drop under the radar I guess. Otherwise, they'll tell me I'm not competent to own firearms. That is my biggest fear. What do you do ?

ICANHITHIMMAN

I take meds for it to Im sure we will get some stupid remarks for it too. But I to try and stay off the radar I guess we are both paranoid but I dont want to loose my guns. Thats why I dont own any

Oxmix

What type of meds do they have you guys on for PTSD? If you would, name the medication. Sometimes there are herbs or supplements that do the same thing. That would allow you to keep way under the radar.

Regards

Ox

davidgcalderone

I second that, a lot of issues can be better controlled through diet and supplements that with drugs. My wife and I switched off medicines to natural cures about five years ago. No side effects, a lot less expensive, and in general we are in better health for it.

ICANHITHIMMAN

I always figured it would pass with time its just not time yet lol

wlhawk

I don't want any kind of "help" this president can give!

JR

There are a number of other treatments for PTSD, known as CIS (Critical Incident Stress) in civilian life.

They involve counseling, anger management, diet and vitamin courses. The actual phenomena should respond to counseling quickly, if the person actually wants help. Of course, they need to be seen by a person who understands the mechanism, and has actually studied the associated information gathered about it.

While I was active in Fire/EMS CIS became an acknowledged phenomena, and a tiered response was formulated. I was a CIS Counselor, and did initial de-briefs, recommending follow-on care. It doesn't take a fire-fight to cause the identical to PTSD problem. Too many people witness terribly wasteful excesses caused by accident, fire, or violence. They operate in teams as small as two, and can be shattered by what they see. We used to send them out to a bar with some experienced members, and they would talk it out over a few drinks, but that's regarded as non-sensitive today, no matter how well it worked.

PTSD, or CIS, is not a permanent condition, except in the most extreme, and rare, cases. It responds well to treatment, and is no real reason to abrogate one's rights in a routine manner.

Vermin

I avoid the VA like the plague.

M21guy

They rate me at 50% for it. I'm not worried about me. They have no interest in me at all anymore. It is the rest of you depressed and troubled souls that will screw it all up for all of us. Do your self a favor and get help and don't sweat the little things. One thing PTSD is good for is causing you problems distinguishing just who to trust. Baby steps. Force yourself. Take some risks again. We all probably used to take huge risks and finally got burnt for it. It happens. We got burnt so bad we just could get back up right away is all. Get back up now and try to trust someone again. It feels pretty good. Pretty soon there is less and less people out to get you.

John Crusher

I just take a low dose Anti-depressant 'cuz sometimes I get that stinkin' thinking. My concern is that after doing my time on all the other treatments i.e. counseling,meds and just getting on with my life, will that be held against me ?

JR

Honestly? Think of how many people are currently being treated for depression that have n ever been in the service. Or how many people have been treated for CIWS over the past two decades. If taking low dose prescription anti-depressants were some how going to be held against you, all of those people for the past 50+ years would also be in trouble, wouldn't they?

Here, I think that the famous "don't ask, don't tell" policy is most appropriate.

rice paddy daddy

I recieved therapy and counseling from the VA 20 years ago for PTSD. But I refused their drugs and didn't apply for disability. I'm much better now. One of my daughters suggested I apply now, but honestly, the less I have to do with the government and the VA, the better.
I have never failed a background check to buy a weapon.

Motown7.62

First off, I'm not a lawyer but I've been a Sheriff's Deputy for a long time and have dealt with this sort of thing many times. When you fill out that yellow govt form to purchase a firearm, they ask if you've ever been "adjudicated mentally defective". "Adjudicated" is a legal term that in this case means that you have been legally declared mentally unfit by way of being petitioned into the care of a psychiatric facility due to the rulings of a psychiatrist and often times a judge. To be petitioned into a mental health facility, one or all of three criteria must first be met by preponderance of evidence: 1. you are a threat to yourself 2. you are a threat to others 3. you cannot attend to your basic needs (feeding, hygiene,etc.). These are often hard to prove and to be admitted, there must be a lot of proof. Just because you are receiving treatment for PTSD at an out-patient facility and are taking medications for it hardly meets any of the three criteria I listed. As long as you never do meet any of that criteria and don't do anything stupid with a firearm, you should be all set.


Motown out

dwight55

At least one guy I served directly with suffered from Agent Orange, . . . I'm just praising the Lord I somehow escaped, . . . and I am not going to the VA to see if they can find it, . . . PTSD, . . . or anything else.

Once they have your name in the file, . . . there is no telling where or what will be the end of it.

May God bless,
Dwight

MaadiMan

Even though this is an old thread, I am going to comment because I got an e-mail the other day that basically said if you were being treated for mental problems you can't get a Carry Permit. This is false.
Motown7.62 is correct. If you have not been committed to a mental institution, you are good to go on applying for a Carry Permit.
In Tenn this is what the law says:

QUESTION 13(A) – Have you ever been adjudicated as a mental defective or have you been committed to or hospitalized in a mental institution?

Under 2009 Public Chapter 578, effective January 1, 2010, the applicant should answer ‘yes’ if he or she has been judicially committed to or hospitalized in a mental institution pursuant to title 33 (otherwise known as ‘involuntary commitment’).

An applicant who was voluntarily committed is legally able to answer ‘no’ to Questions 13(A).

So, even if you checked yourself into the mental institution for whatever reason, you can still apply and not be turned down for being mentally unstable.

Bottom line.....read the law. what does it really say. It's not what Joe Blow says it says.