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Old December 28th, 2016, 11:57 PM   #91
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Call a Cease Fire!
This is nuts!
Please don't this thread is hilarious.


Some of you guys need to understand when people are just messing around. I truly doubt someone would come on here and personally attack another member. Sarcasm and insults make up the majority of the body of most sentences in the military. Most guys that served had their hide thickened while in thanks to all the "training and mentoring" by their senior Lcpl's. We only mess with people we like.

Back on topic I have a son that has worn cammies for the past 4 yrs almost every day. He is 8 now. Most the time he is sporting jump wings and a dive bubble, he even wears black shorts under them because he wants to be like his dad. I'm gonna turn him in for stolen valor. I used a smiley emoji so that means it is all in good fun so nobody get bent out of shape.

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Old December 29th, 2016, 02:53 AM   #92
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I am really surprised that a little conversation among friends led to a few getting their feelings hurt. I think we should award them a gold star for participation even if the meanings of what was being said went over their heads.
Nothing at all against civilians. Heck, I think every soldier should own a few.

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Some of you guys need to understand when people are just messing around. I truly doubt someone would come on here and personally attack another member. Sarcasm and insults make up the majority of the body of most sentences in the military. Most guys that served had their hide thickened while in thanks to all the "training and mentoring" by their senior Lcpl's. We only mess with people we like.
The issue I have with how this thread has evolved is that it strikes at elitism. That is never funny if you are outside the "group". What would folks think if someone stated (jokingly or otherwise) that you should only be able to vote if you had a college degree? Or had an IQ above 140? Or made more than $200,000 per year? You get the idea. There is an old saying that sarcasm is the lowest form of humor. I say that it often crosses the line and is not humorous because a lot of folks don't understand to what degree it is humor and to what degree it is meant to be offensive. Rick

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Not really a lot different than the mid-late 60's. Lots of kids, hippies and hippie-wannabes wore WWII and Korean War era clothing and regalia. Surplus/discount/pawn shops were full of it, including medals. Apparently lots of families saw little need for it after dad or grandfather passed.
All that sacrifice and it's becoming just bling once more. But, it's no more significant to them than the 'VW' hood ornament worn by the old Beastie Boys members.

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Old December 29th, 2016, 09:11 AM   #97
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Consensus here is sadly lacking.

The politically NOT correct Canuck equivalent of "panties in a wad" is "knickers in a knot".
(;-[)

According to this thread, how I choose to dress today is;

A.) POLITICAL CORRECTNESS?
B.) TRIBUTE TO Sgt Daddy?
C.) STOLEN VALOR?
D.) ANTI CIVILIAN ELITISM?
E.) TEMPEST IN A TEAPOT?
F.) NONE OF YOUR FNNN BUSINESS?

ALL OF THE ABOVE??

If only we had a consensus here ...
or the Special Forces version of Anne Landers or Ms. Manners chimed in to tell us what is right, correct, and proper.

When my ex-brother in law ( who was born a Canuck, but ran off to join the circus as a lad, took a wrong turn some where, and ended up as a US Marine), came to visit me a while back, he gave me a marine corps symboled hat ....
and warned me not to wear it South of the 49 unless I was looking for a fight.

Seems a bit silly to me.
Fightin' over a hat?
Or a jacket patch?
Or a T shirt slogan?
Or the brand of motorcycle I ride?

OK ... fine.

First of all ...
I can go with the concept of that citizenship must be earned by SERVICE, as demonstrated by Switzerland ... and theorised by Heinlen. But,
SERVICE does not have to be exclusively MILITARY. I agree that citizenship should be an EARNED privilege, not a born right. But, as shown in Hacksaw Ridge, "pacifists" may be just as brave ( or perhaps even braver) than the gunslingers and killers, and serve our society in more productive ways than ... "killing em all and letting God sort it out." The emergency room Dr, or nurse, or EMT, or even the attendants in the old's folk homes, SERVE. These are job some of us
"Military elitest tough guys" simply could not hack.
They all deserve our respect for their service.

Second,
My dad served in WW 2, and had the usual bling that came with the uniform ... which he packed away in a box and we never saw till he died. The one and only " status symbol" he wore as a civvy, was the little caterpillar pin he got from the Erwin parachute company. He was PROUD of that pin, and I am tempted from time to time to wear it as a tribute to him. Especially here/now, as I have started hanging out with the RCAF/ Canadian LEGION EXPAT group here in Ajijic, Mexico.

And if you don't like that I want to wear "my daddy's service bling", as a tribute, why even at my age, I might be inclined to invite you outside to discuss it physically.
WHAT I WEAR AS A TRIBUTE TO MY FALLEN FATHER IS BETWEEN HIM AND ME...
and none of your "POLITICALLY CORRECT" meddling beeswax.

Third,
I find it fascinating that some of those who fought for "freedom" are now taking on the role of nitty picky fashion police. If I want to wear military pattern camo to the mall, and look like a totally ridiculous, insecure wannabee, poseur (Canuck speak for poser) then in our free society it is my right to look like an insecure wannabee.

I personally choose a different "camo" pattern for urban environments ... I go with tight fitting spandex and lycra in BRIGHT FLOURESCENT CLASHING colors ... the CRAZY CLOWN /SCARY CLOWN camo pattern. Most people look away immediately ...no one wants to make eye contact with an overweight spandex wearing crazy clown. ... carrying a purse? What hortibke things might he have in that bag??

My choice of "bold fashion statement" works well as "camo" for my "covert mall missions ". And after all, isn't that what camo is for ... to misdirect and hide?

Fourth,
With POLITICAL CORRECTNESS fast becoming one of the leading cause of the impending decline and fall of the American Empire, telling people what is ."correct" to wear is just another nail in our coffins.

Fifth,
BRAND LOYALTY ...
UNIT LOYALTY ...
RACE LOYALTY ...
"Can't we all just play nice and get along " without setting up an " IN CROWD" and trying to feel superior to the "outies"?

The world is fragmented enough by religion, politics, language, finsncual, and race ELITEST SNOBS, all competing to tell us we are not good enough to belong.

I do not buy into that sh!t.

I can walk into dam near any biker bar anywhere wearing my "colors". When I ride I wear a BMW jacket ... not a shiny new one, but rather a beat up old one with road rash scars on it. Most REAL bikers, whatever the brand, respect the scars, the age, and the experience.

The motorcycle club I belong to is called HORIZON'S UNLIMITED ...the biggest motorcycle club in the world, with members all around the world, many of whom.have quite literally ridden ROUND THE WORLD. We are a club of INCLUSION, NOT EXCLUSION. And if you break down in Sh!tsville, ButtYuckistan, on your RTW trip, there is likely a near by H/U member who will.be there for you.

This is what a tribe or a club should be ... INCLUSION ... not a bunch of ELITESTS ( but usually just fat old has beens sitting around talking about the good ol days) taking themselves wayyy too seriously.

Like the great philosopher Groucho Marks said so well,
On the subject of ELITISM,
"Why would I want to join any club that would have me as a member?"

These opinions are mine,
I earned them
Got the miles and the years and the scars to prove it

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Old December 29th, 2016, 09:26 AM   #98
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The politically NOT correct Canuck equivalent of "panties in a wad" is "knickers in a knot".
(;-[)

According to this thread, how I choose to dress today is;

A.) POLITICAL CORRECTNESS?
B.) TRIBUTE TO Sgt Daddy?
C.) STOLEN VALOR?
D.) ANTI CIVILIAN ELITISM?
E.) TEMPEST IN A TEAPOT?
F.) NONE OF YOUR FNNN BUSINESS?

ALL OF THE ABOVE??

If only we had a consensus here ...
or the Special Forces version of Anne Landers or Ms. Manners chimed in to tell us what is right, correct, and proper.

When my ex-brother in law ( who was born a Canuck, but ran off to join the circus as a lad, took a wrong turn some where, and ended up as a US Marine), came to visit me a while back, he gave me a marine corps symboled hat ....
and warned me not to wear it South of the 49 unless I was looking for a fight.

Seems a bit silly to me.
Fightin' over a hat?
Or a jacket patch?
Or a T shirt slogan?
Or the brand of motorcycle I ride?

OK ... fine.

First of all ...
I can go with the concept of that citizenship must be earned by SERVICE, as demonstrated by Switzerland ... and theorised by Heinlen. But,
SERVICE does not have to be exclusively MILITARY. I agree that citizenship should be an EARNED privilege, not a born right. But, as shown in Hacksaw Ridge, "pacifists" may be just as brave ( or perhaps even braver) than the gunslingers and killers, and serve our society in more productive ways than ... "killing em all and letting God sort it out." The emergency room Dr, or nurse, or EMT, or even the attendants in the old's folk homes, SERVE. These are job some of us
"Military elitest tough guys" simply could not hack.
They all deserve our respect for their service.

Second,
My dad served in WW 2, and had the usual bling that came with the uniform ... which he packed away in a box and we never saw till he died. The one and only " status symbol" he wore as a civvy, was the little caterpillar pin he got from the Erwin parachute company. He was PROUD of that pin, and I am tempted from time to time to wear it as a tribute to him. Especially here/now, as I have started hanging out with the RCAF/ Canadian LEGION EXPAT group here in Ajijic, Mexico.

And if you don't like that I want to wear "my daddy's service bling", as a tribute, why even at my age, I might be inclined to invite you outside to discuss it physically.
WHAT I WEAR AS A TRIBUTE TO MY FALLEN FATHER IS BETWEEN HIM AND ME...
and none of your "POLITICALLY CORRECT" meddling beeswax.

Third,
I find it fascinating that some of those who fought for "freedom" are now taking on the role of nitty picky fashion police. If I want to wear military pattern camo to the mall, and look like a totally ridiculous, insecure wannabee, poseur (Canuck speak for poser) then in our free society it is my right to look like an insecure wannabee.

I personally choose a different "camo" pattern for urban environments ... I go with tight fitting spandex and lycra in BRIGHT FLOURESCENT CLASHING colors ... the CRAZY CLOWN /SCARY CLOWN camo pattern. Most people look away immediately ...no one wants to make eye contact with an overweight spandex wearing crazy clown. ... carrying a purse? What hortibke things might he have in that bag??

My choice of "bold fashion statement" works well as "camo" for my "covert mall missions ". And after all, isn't that what camo is for ... to misdirect and hide?

Fourth,
With POLITICAL CORRECTNESS fast becoming one of the leading cause of the impending decline and fall of the American Empire, telling people what is ."correct" to wear is just another nail in our coffins.

Fifth,
BRAND LOYALTY ...
UNIT LOYALTY ...
RACE LOYALTY ...
"Can't we all just play nice and get along " without setting up an " IN CROWD" and trying to feel superior to the "outies"?

The world is fragmented enough by religion, politics, language, finsncual, and race ELITEST SNOBS, all competing to tell us we are not good enough to belong.

I do not buy into that sh!t.

I can walk into dam near any biker bar anywhere wearing my "colors". When I ride I wear a BMW jacket ... not a shiny new one, but rather a beat up old one with road rash scars on it. Most REAL bikers, whatever the brand, respect the scars, the age, and the experience.

The motorcycle club I belong to is called HORIZON'S UNLIMITED ...the biggest motorcycle club in the world, with members all around the world, many of whom.have quite literally ridden ROUND THE WORLD. We are a club of INCLUSION, NOT EXCLUSION. And if you break down in Sh!tsville, ButtYuckistan, on your RTW trip, there is likely a near by H/U member who will.be there for you.

This is what a tribe or a club should be ... INCLUSION ... not a bunch of ELITESTS ( but usually just fat old has beens sitting around talking about the good ol days) taking themselves wayyy too seriously.

Like the great philosopher Groucho Marks said so well,
On the subject of ELITISM,
"Why would I want to join any club that would have me as a member?"

These opinions are mine,
I earned them
Got the miles and the years and the scars to prove it
A Truly Splendid, Textbook Example Of---

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Old December 29th, 2016, 10:25 AM   #99
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Takes someone from the 05 to get it.

I think that they prefer to be called NAPs now a days, non-airborne personnel.
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"My dad served in WW 2, and had the usual bling that came with the uniform ... which he packed away in a box and we never saw till he died. The one and only " status symbol" he wore as a civvy, was the little caterpillar pin he got from the Erwin parachute company. He was PROUD of that pin, and I am tempted from time to time to wear it as a tribute to him. Especially here/now, as I have started hanging out with the RCAF/ Canadian LEGION EXPAT group here in Ajijic, Mexico.

And if you don't like that I want to wear "my daddy's service bling", as a tribute, why even at my age, I might be inclined to invite you outside to discuss it physically..."
=====================================

So, tell me this...
If Your WWII Paratrooper Dad, wearing that treasured Pin(Status Symbol'?) were to have encountered a Bloke in a Pub whom he knew Not to have Served, wearing that same Pin...would you not have expected fireworks?
I surely would have...
But You seem to me to be saying here that it's really OK for you or anyone else to wear such treasured medals, insignia, etc...if they subjectively deem it to be a 'tribute' to someone or something...
And if We Veterans 'don't like that', well---You feel so strongly about Your Rights that You Will Invite US to Fight YOU !?

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Old December 29th, 2016, 11:24 AM   #101
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I was rejected by both the Marine Corp and the Army for a disability so as a consolation prize my friends dad who served during WWII bought me a brand new M65 field jacket that I wore all the time and still have and if I ever feel like it I would wear again (no insignia).

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Old December 29th, 2016, 12:38 PM   #102
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So, tell me this...
If Your WWII Paratrooper Dad, wearing that treasured Pin(Status Symbol'?) were to have encountered a Bloke in a Pub whom he knew Not to have Served, wearing that same Pin...would you not have expected fireworks?
I surely would have...
But You seem to me to be saying here that it's really OK for you or anyone else to wear such treasured medals, insignia, etc...if they subjectively deem it to be a 'tribute' to someone or something...
And if We Veterans 'don't like that', well---You feel so strongly about Your Rights that You Will Invite US to Fight YOU !?

STRANGE!



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Cavman,
Look up caterpillar club.

My dad was NOT a paratrooper. He was an RAF/RCAF crewman who bailed out of a heavier than air device that no longer was capable of defying gravity.

He was a smart guy and a self confident guy ... a REGIMENTAL SERGEANT MAJOR ...and if he saw some civillian poseur wannabee wearing undeserved military bling, he probably would have given the miscreant some verbal counselling rather than resort to crude physical motivation.

If you have ever been subject to "verbal conselling" by an RSM, then you may know, as I know well from growing up with one as my father, that a good beating would be preferable.

I am now old and fat and mellow, and no longer will fight "at the drop of a hat". But if some whiny fashion critic wants to start something about how I choose pay tribute to my ol' man, then so be it. One of the things that is really really wrong with our society is "political correctness". And putting up with some "fashion nazi" telling me what I can and can not wear is over the top.

If all the young girls can wear their underwear outside, then I can wear my dad's caterpillar pin.

Some things are just worth fighting for!!
And the freedom to dress silly is one of them.

It is Funny ...
The REAL warriors I know don't seem to get too personally upset about wannabees wearing bling. They can tell who's who without the bling. In fact, one of the highest ranking officers in the Canadian Forces on the Wet Coast gave me his hat in trade for some gunsmithing.

Although, I did get some looks at the last Canadian Snobirds air show from some of the military types there when I wore it.

Some people just take themselves too seriously.
Why?

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Old December 29th, 2016, 12:40 PM   #103
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My dad was a army lifer,was one of the first in Nam.
Me and my sisters were all born in diffrient countys overseas.
Grew up on military bases,my dad has since passed.
I look at his old army stuff,but I would never wear it.

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I got it. We'll have Big Gubment take care of this, and put all offenders in one of our industrial prison compounds, where they can make military medals for profit! Sell the medals they make to more people to arrest! That's capitalism at it's best.

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Some people just take themselves too seriously.
Why?

PS: Shall we now start an argument on which end of a boiled egg is best to open??
Alright. I'll start. It's best to open the egg on the curved end.

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