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Old September 7th, 2016, 07:04 AM   #1
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I have to get something off my mind. I have a major problem with the VA, and it is that they treat me too good! I keep hearing how bad the VA is from candidates and the media, and I feel guilty. Why am I getting good care if EVERYONE else is getting screwed? I go to the Billings VA Clinic and am more than happy with the care I get. The people are great and seem to take a true interest in my welfare. My treatment has always been on a timely basis, and I see specialists when needed. So, why do I have it so good? Vets, care to chime in?

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Old September 7th, 2016, 07:28 AM   #2
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[QUOTE=Rich D;2022905]I have to get something off my mind. I have a major problem with the VA, and it is that they treat me too good! I keep hearing how bad the VA is from candidates and the media, and I feel guilty. Why am I getting good care if EVERYONE else is getting screwed? I go to the Billings VA Clinic and am more than happy with the care I get. The people are great and seem to take a true interest in my welfare. My treatment has always been on a timely basis, and I see specialists when needed. So, why do I have it so good? Vets, care to chime in?[/QUO.TE]
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Old September 7th, 2016, 07:34 AM   #3
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I have to get something off my mind. I have a major problem with the VA, and it is that they treat me too good! I keep hearing how bad the VA is from candidates and the media, and I feel guilty. Why am I getting good care if EVERYONE else is getting screwed? I go to the Billings VA Clinic and am more than happy with the care I get. The people are great and seem to take a true interest in my welfare. My treatment has always been on a timely basis, and I see specialists when needed. So, why do I have it so good? Vets, care to chime in?
I'm in Central Wyoming...and I hear 'complaints' from other VN Vets every week at the Vietnam Vets Outreach Center...
Generally speaking...Our part of the country has Less Volume of Vets seeking Medical Services, so that's one explanation.
(Note that I am Not talking about Colorado! Vets from CO who are often sent up to the Cheyenne VA!)
I am including Cheyenne, Wy/Sheridan Wy/Billings Mt...
But...then you hear from guys, not just one guy, but different guys every week who cannot get virtually any help from the VA. It really varies, from great care to no care!
One guy told about moving his V.A. files to Sturgis/Hot Springs, S. D. Because of poor responses from the Sheridan V.A.!
Another guy Winters in Las Vegas, and has good success there!
A third guy Winters in Phoenix and also has a long history of getting help there.

Personally, I have had good results at the Casper C.B.O.C. And at the Cheyenne V.A. Hospital, but dealing with the Sheridan V.A. Hospital has been Poor each time time I dealt with them!

What I think is that generally speaking...once a Vet gets well-established in a specific V.A. Hospital, especially for a specific medical condition...He is known to them and likely to continue getting good services...
But bottom line...
If you get a bunch of Vets in a room and ask about their happiness with the local C.B.O.C. And/Or their closest V.A. Hospital...their responses will vary from A+ to F!
There is just no consistency to Treatment in my view...

If You are receiving Great Service in Billings...Count Your Blessings!



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Old September 7th, 2016, 07:44 AM   #4
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Montana has an independent streak. We were one of the first states to legalize medical marijuana with over 62% of the vote. We also have the most lax gun and concealed carry laws in the country. We were one of the last states to ban open containers, and to have a speed limit(once Reasonable and Prudent, now 80 on Interstate). We also have a Democratic Gov, and Senator. Go figure!

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The veterans in wisc are glad for you and your situation in Montana...

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Montana has an independent streak. We were one of the first states to legalize medical marijuana with over 62% of the vote. We also have the most lax gun and concealed carry laws in the country. We were one of the last states to ban open containers, and to have a speed limit(once Reasonable and Prudent, now 80 on Interstate). We also have a Democratic Gov, and Senator. Go figure!
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**** These are my observations only, my neighbors might be completely opposite .

I have been in the system for ~ 8yrs. I appreciate the low cost care I get, considering My wife and I can't afford private care, but, my local clinic changes primary care providers at least twice a year. Any procedures other then a checkup and blood test require's multiple visits to New Orleans[58miles one way]. First for a consultation , then another for a schedule. Then back for any procedure. I have yet to see the same Dr. for any consult or procedures done over the years.,,,I've had about a dozen... The majority of the docs are contracted and return to their residence after a brief stay. Get a lot of interns from the private hospital next door that get their "practice"on the vets. I have had a few painful experiences. When you get someone with lots of experience, they are usually gone before you get a follow up. They never get to know you or you them..Everytime I go back I have to start on my life story again , because they don't bother to look it up in the computer.

Wait times are usually good, less then 30 days. The longest I've had to wait was was around 3 months.

I know they are overburdened with patients and stretched thin. And they have "alot" of employees who do next to nothing. Checking in to an appointment , I use the automated Kiosk, then see 3 different employees who take down the same info before going to the waiting room.

Sounds like I'm complaining some but I really do appreciate the care.
Not so much the waste, way to many employees, and to put it as P.C. as possible, 99% democrats who couldn't get a job if it wasn't for the .gov,,, or the lack of organization.

There are 4 major/minor private hospitals and physician clinics within 30 miles [1 is only 6 miles] but I can only go to them for emergency room care only.

In a couple months I'm eligible for medicare. I might see how that works out.

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Old September 7th, 2016, 09:09 AM   #8
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I think, perhaps if the president, vice president, ALL the members if the Senate, the House of representatives AND ALL their families had to utilize the VA....things would be a whole lot different. Silly,foolish me...why would we want to subject those people to what a "grateful nation" has provided the veteran.

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Old September 7th, 2016, 05:32 PM   #9
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My Dad was using the VA here in Houston from the time he retired at 65 until he passed at 89.

They took great care of his teeth, eye sight, hearing and general health.

Only time he got mad at them was when one of the doctors he had been seeing for a few years retired and he got a new doc.

One of the first questions she asked was if there were any guns in the house.

That did not go over well with an 89 year old Veteran.

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Old September 7th, 2016, 06:09 PM   #10
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I'm Group 8 so don't really give an F. Earned VA benefits sailing the submerged sewers of the world, won't ever see a penny of assistance. Any further rant a waste of my life.

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Old September 7th, 2016, 06:18 PM   #11
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I have had excellent care from the VA. In fact my primary care is a young woman Physicians Assistant and because of her diligence and persistence she, quite literally, saved my life. The majority of VA hospitals are teaching hospitals, so , yes, there will always be a turnover of doctors. But the VA utilizes a lot of PA's and all that I have encountered are skilled professionals who provide excellent care. I regularly see a PA in Dallas and though he is only five years junior to me, I was pleased to hear he had no plans to retire. He has really looked out for me and the care I have received has been excellent. He is better than some of the doctors he works with.

I have only minor complaints about the VA and they focus primarily on the administrative employees, generally lower paid and not always dedicated to assuring the system works as it should. Or the pharmacy reorder process that does not always function flawlessly and you get too close to being out of your medications. I guess my most significant complaint is that the local CBOC generally requires at least thirty days for an appointment. If you have a sudden illness of some type and need to get in you are just out of luck. If it were a civilian doctor and you called and explained why you needed an appointment you would likely be told to come to their office and they would work you in. You might have to wait awhile, but you would get to see the doctor. Not so with our local CBOC. The only available option is to go to the local civilian emergency room or drive 60 miles to the VA hospital in Dallas to go to their emergency room. Thankfully, my need to get in the CBOC promptly has occurred only twice.

I really feel badly for those vets in need of care who simply can't get it, or those who continue to suffer while waiting overly long for an appointment. For me, the VA has really been good.

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After the first Gulf War, I was having issues with similar to the Gulf War Syndrome; I went to the VA and was told it would be 6 months before I could get in. I left and vowed I would never go back after more then enough choice words... I am glad that things are changing for the better.

We are very blessed and fortunate to not have to need the VA.

I do believe that the more remote the area of the country that is near a VA center the better off you are....

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After the first Gulf War, I was having issues with similar to the Gulf War Syndrome; I went to the VA and was told it would be 6 months before I could get in. I left and vowed I would never go back after more then enough choice words... I am glad that things are changing for the better.

We are very blessed and fortunate to not have to need the VA.

I do believe that the more remote the area of the country that is near a VA center the better off you are....

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My personal attitude towards the V.A. Is this:
I choose to 'fight' them as necessary and appropriate.
I will not just leave, I will not back down or back away...I keep Coming Back!
I do so for those who cannot fight them.
I fight the V.A. To keep them ACCOUNTABLE for All Veterans.
I reject the idea espoused by some in Congress and elsewhere that Veterans should be issued Vouchers for Private Health Care...that would ultimately be the death of the entire V.A. Hospital system and eventually Veterans would just be in line with each and every other Medicare/Medicaid Recipients Nationwide!
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Old September 7th, 2016, 08:10 PM   #14
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After being injured on active duty and processed out I had a smooth transition and continued care by the VA. As time went on the VA kept adding injuries and illness to be service connected and upgraded my disabilities without trouble and usually by them with no prodding or complaining by me. I actually have had VA counselors say "You are pretty messed up and need to be re-evaluated".

I'm a lucky guy to say the least. Even the Social security people looked at my stuff and said "You are pretty messed up and need to be disabiled.....no duh.

My medical care at the VA Out patient clinic here is so good, and even my care at the Houston VA is better than many military hospitals. So while I know there are many who have problems....I never have.

Good thing I knew about being able to keep records and where to get them. I have been able to point the VA to Quantico for some of my USMC records and to the Army for my records there when in service to them.

Fortunately my service was very well documented over the decades. I count my blessings everyday! What a GREAT country we live in!

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My personal attitude towards the V.A. Is this:
I choose to 'fight' them as necessary and appropriate.
I will not just leave, I will not back down or back away...I keep Coming Back!
I do so for those who cannot fight them.
I fight the V.A. To keep them ACCOUNTABLE for All Veterans.
I reject the idea espoused by some in Congress and elsewhere that Veterans should be issued Vouchers for Private Health Care...that would ultimately be the death of the entire V.A. Hospital system and eventually Veterans would just be in line with each and every other Medicare/Medicaid Recipients Nationwide!
NO Veteran Should Buy Into That B.S. !



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When the "beaucratic"leeches in our government start "fighting" for their healthcare for themselves and their families; I will agree with your above statement. No veteran NONE should have to stand in line and fight for their "healthcare". The "line"for any vet should begin before any president or member of congress. I am sorry you think so little of yourself and your service and the service of others when it comes to "healthcare". Just my opinion. Thx for listening.

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