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Old August 19th, 2012, 05:20 PM   #1
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VA Enrollees Exempt From Obamacare

By Patricia Kime

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Good news for veterans who lack health care and fear they’ll have to buy insurance or pay a penalty under the Affordable Care Act: Enrollment in the Veterans Health Administration counts as being insured.

Former troops who qualify for VA health care — including all who fall into the Veterans Affairs Department’s eight health care priority groups — do not have to buy insurance under the health care reform law’s individual mandate requirement.

This includes veterans in Priority Group 8, often targeted for elimination by budget-cutters because it is for veterans who have no serviceconnected disabilities and have income and net worth that exceed VA thresholds.

In 2003, VA closed enrollment in Priority Group 8 as a cost-saving measure. But in June 2009, VA reopened enrollment, with income restrictions. Former service members who do not qualify for a higher priority group and whose income exceeds VA’s normal national and geographic income thresholds by less than 10 percent can enroll in Priority Group 8.

VA publishes its national and geographic income thresholds yearly.

According to figures provided by VA, nearly 8.6 million veterans are enrolled in the Veterans Health Administration. An estimated 6.6 million more of the nation’s 23 million veterans are eligible to enroll. VA is “conducting analyses to better understand the potential implications of the Affordable Care Act on veterans,” said VA spokeswoman Michelle Hammonds.

She noted that veterans and eligible beneficiaries who are not enrolled in VA health care can enroll in the system online.

“We’ll continue to provide veterans with high-quality, comprehensive health care and benefits they have earned,” she said.

Nearly 168,000 veterans have enrolled in Priority Group 8 since restrictions were lifted in 2009.

The largest enrollment group, with 2.2 million veterans, is Priority Group 5, open to veterans receiving Medicaid benefits or VA pensions, or who do not have a service-related condition and do not receive benefits but whose income is below VA financial thresholds.

U.S. citizens who do not have health insurance and do not qualify for government programs could face penalties under the ACA starting in 2014. Annual fines would start at $95 for an adult and $47.50 for a child up to $285 per family or 1 percent of family income, whichever is greater.

In 2016 and beyond, fines would rise to $695 per adult and $347.50 per child, up to $2,085 per family or 2.5 percent of family income, whichever is greater.

The Congressional Budget Office estimates about 1 percent of Americans would have to pay the fines. □

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Hopefully, we can get Romney elected and he can get this BS repealed.

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Old August 19th, 2012, 05:44 PM   #3
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i am considering a kickstarter campaign for health insurance...

it would cost like 50 per year... and would be administrated insurance...

so youd have a card to carry around, and to put on your tax forms.. but if you get hurt you pay for your own crap...

there are already these companies out there for businesses.. i want to start one for individuals.

the insurance covers everything... but its financed by the customer.

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I have been getting everyone who is a veteren signed up for the VA heath system for over 2 year's.
I don't belong to any organizations but just help people who tell me they are a veteren.
So far I have helped 2 people get 100% and 1 get 40%. Several have got 10% to 30%.
These are guys who have never thought of applying for any benifit's and don't want to deal with the goverment after they got out of the service.
If you get benifits then you owe it to your fellow vet's to help them get their benifit's.
It is a bonus that we are exempt from oboma care.
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Guess I should look into this. I haven't drawn any of my service disability since I got out in 91.

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I haven’t gone to the VA yet but I see myself going to them in the near future.

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By Patricia Kime

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Good news for veterans who lack health care and fear they’ll have to buy insurance or pay a penalty under the Affordable Care Act: Enrollment in the Veterans Health Administration counts as being insured.

Former troops who qualify for VA health care — including all who fall into the Veterans Affairs Department’s eight health care priority groups — do not have to buy insurance under the health care reform law’s individual mandate requirement.

This includes veterans in Priority Group 8, often targeted for elimination by budget-cutters because it is for veterans who have no serviceconnected disabilities and have income and net worth that exceed VA thresholds.

In 2003, VA closed enrollment in Priority Group 8 as a cost-saving measure. But in June 2009, VA reopened enrollment, with income restrictions. Former service members who do not qualify for a higher priority group and whose income exceeds VA’s normal national and geographic income thresholds by less than 10 percent can enroll in Priority Group 8.

VA publishes its national and geographic income thresholds yearly.

According to figures provided by VA, nearly 8.6 million veterans are enrolled in the Veterans Health Administration. An estimated 6.6 million more of the nation’s 23 million veterans are eligible to enroll. VA is “conducting analyses to better understand the potential implications of the Affordable Care Act on veterans,” said VA spokeswoman Michelle Hammonds.

She noted that veterans and eligible beneficiaries who are not enrolled in VA health care can enroll in the system online.

“We’ll continue to provide veterans with high-quality, comprehensive health care and benefits they have earned,” she said.

Nearly 168,000 veterans have enrolled in Priority Group 8 since restrictions were lifted in 2009.

The largest enrollment group, with 2.2 million veterans, is Priority Group 5, open to veterans receiving Medicaid benefits or VA pensions, or who do not have a service-related condition and do not receive benefits but whose income is below VA financial thresholds.

U.S. citizens who do not have health insurance and do not qualify for government programs could face penalties under the ACA starting in 2014. Annual fines would start at $95 for an adult and $47.50 for a child up to $285 per family or 1 percent of family income, whichever is greater.

In 2016 and beyond, fines would rise to $695 per adult and $347.50 per child, up to $2,085 per family or 2.5 percent of family income, whichever is greater.

The Congressional Budget Office estimates about 1 percent of Americans would have to pay the fines. □
This is good news. Could we have a link to the story? I'd like to pass it on to others. I looked on Military Times web page but couldn't find anything.
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This is good news. Could we have a link to the story? I'd like to pass it on to others. I looked on Military Times web page but couldn't find anything.
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I'm an Army Times subscriber and it came from this week's issue. I can't link it but I'll see if I can find it published somewhere else or something at the VA website.

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Thanks I did find this;

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I'm an Army Times subscriber and it came from this week's issue. I can't link it but I'll see if I can find it published somewhere else or something at the VA website.
I found this similar article; Same place.

U.S. Military (Ret).: Try not to worry (yet) about the health reform bill

By Alex Keenan - Special to the Times
Posted : Monday Sep 14, 2009 15:24:32 EDT

http://www.armytimes.com/money/retir...ement_083109w/

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Here we go, straight from the .gov, "If you are a veteran enrolled in the VA health program, you do not need to obtain additional coverage. You may purchase additional coverage if you want, but there is nothing in the law requiring you to do so."

http://www.healthcare.gov/news/facts...-care-act.html

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Here we go, straight from the .gov, "If you are a veteran enrolled in the VA health program, you do not need to obtain additional coverage. You may purchase additional coverage if you want, but there is nothing in the law requiring you to do so."

http://www.healthcare.gov/news/facts...-care-act.html
Wow! That's Almost Like Getting...A SECOND 'Entitlement' !!!



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Here we go, straight from the .gov, "If you are a veteran enrolled in the VA health program, you do not need to obtain additional coverage. You may purchase additional coverage if you want, but there is nothing in the law requiring you to do so."

http://www.healthcare.gov/news/facts...-care-act.html
Thanks for your extra efforts. I have passed it along to other Vets.

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