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Old February 26th, 2017, 10:58 AM   #31
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Not a waste of time. If we didn't want to help, we wouldn't be here.
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Old February 26th, 2017, 12:43 PM   #32
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Old February 26th, 2017, 12:46 PM   #33
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Here is something that caught my eye:



And here you can see the same area in a different receiver:



There's a "step" in the transition from the angled part to the flat part on your receiver that is not present, or less pronounced on the other receiver I linked. This could explain why you have a gap between the rear of the receiver and the stock, despite being able to lock the trigger group.

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Old March 1st, 2017, 09:41 PM   #34
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Bad receiver

The receiver is bad. I got the rifle today and it's got a noticeable angle behind the receiver legs. Here's a comparison with my Bula receiver.

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Old March 1st, 2017, 10:44 PM   #35
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I think IRONWORKER nailed it. Someone broke the cartridge clip guide and welded it back on. In the process, they probably warped the receiver. Then they had the receiver refinished.

That's a bummer, because SAI probably won't cover it in the warranty.

I also noticed that the legs were really rounded at the lower back edges.

He's got a nice barrel, though. A Saco standard weight NM barrel.

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The receiver is bad. I got the rifle today and it's got a noticeable angle behind the receiver legs. Here's a comparison with my Bula receiver.

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Wow, that's a a bad warp. It looks to be 1/4" at the back

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Old March 2nd, 2017, 05:49 AM   #37
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I think IRONWORKER nailed it. Someone broke the cartridge clip guide and welded it back on. In the process, they probably warped the receiver. Then they had the receiver refinished.
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So the next question is 'what to do about it' - assuming the owner can't return it, and SAI won't 'fix it'.

If it's safe to shoot as-is, then I'd just do some sort of 'cosmetic' bedding of the receiver heel area.

Just curious, but how well does it appear to fit in the other stock? And does it look like that stock was modified for fit?

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Old March 2nd, 2017, 05:59 AM   #38
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WoW! Just when I thought I'd seen everything.

That would be my question too, is this rifle a candidate for a bedding job to save the receiver? Or, better idea just to get a new one? Another thought is if the heat treatment is up to par?

I know the thought of a Bubba'd receiver would bother me...

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Old March 2nd, 2017, 06:24 AM   #39
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So the next question is 'what to do about it' - assuming the owner can't return it, and SAI won't 'fix it'.

If it's safe to shoot as-is, then I'd just do some sort of 'cosmetic' bedding of the receiver heel area.

Just curious, but how well does it appear to fit in the other stock? And does it look like that stock was modified for fit?

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Lots of unknowns here. The receiver fits fine from the receiver legs forward. He only shipped me the new stock he wanted to use, so I can't comment on the original stock. We have no idea what kind of re-heat treatment was used and what it did to the structural integrity to the rest of the receiver.

The owner is opting for a new receiver.

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The GI fiberglass was bedded but upon pulling it noticed the excess bedding in heal. it was 100 percent modified to fit properly in the fiberglass stock. Tony helped ( much appreciated) not knowing the whole story I'm assuming the weld was what warped the heel. I seriously doubt SA will warranty since non factory weld was done at some point . Truly sucks someone did this to a early SA receiver. I'm sure the heel could be fixed but she's coming home as a stripped pre ban SA receiver and Tony is re building her with new Bula defense receiver. answer yes it shot with the bedded stock I have but opted for Tony's option. If anyone wants a deal on project receiver , I might know of one available. lol
Hoping she looks good with the new Bula and comes back even better.

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Hey that's what we do here!!

Glad we could find the problem and the fix.

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Think I would be having a conversation with the guy you got it from.

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Old March 2nd, 2017, 08:40 PM   #43
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It appears the rifle wasn't reparked. It was painted. I've been scraping paint off the receiver to see what it looks like underneath. I'm concerned the bolt might be a reclaimed parade bolt.

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Keeps getting better Tony��

No going back, he's beyond this world .

Only option is moving forward

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Old March 2nd, 2017, 09:01 PM   #45
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I scraped the paint off the bolt face. What do you guys think? Look at the outer rim of the bolt face. Weird looking edge.

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