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Old February 25th, 2017, 07:57 AM   #16
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I have an 11XXX serial number with the ridge. Have thought about having the ridge milled off. But just modified the stocks so far. Very Easy to do.

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Old February 25th, 2017, 02:59 PM   #17
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Here is bottom of my receiver, what ridge am I missing ( I know you guys are laughing at this point)
I see nothing that would drop it down the distance shown in earlier posts.

You can see the bottom is flush on both sides of the rear of receiver no ridge
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Old February 25th, 2017, 03:03 PM   #18
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Here is empty stock what areas are you thinking to relieve to adjust?
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Old February 25th, 2017, 03:13 PM   #19
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Straight edge on both sides of stock
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Old February 25th, 2017, 03:22 PM   #20
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Ok, is this the edge causing issue on receiver that your talking about? I put straight edge on and it and can see this is about the gap I have in question . Or am I off yet again .


Looking at other pics posted.. My receiver is flat on right side and does not have the ridge . As you can see in posted pics. So I'm back to not seeing where it's binding and dropping into stock correctly.

I know will get there , stay with me guys.. I'm struggling
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Old February 25th, 2017, 09:46 PM   #21
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I think RY has it. The wood from the liner screw forward is causing the problem. If the depth of the top of the liner allows you to file off enough wood you should be able to bring the heel down some. Maybe flush but you will probably have to go all the way to the op rod channel. I believe this will bring the heel down a lot closer to the stock. Use a coarse rasp or file, then tidy up with sand paper. I did just the opposite with my Garand. The space was in the middle and I had to file the rear. It actually hurt me to have to do this but I WANTED that stock to work. Start above the liner screw where the space starts and work your way forward. I really can't see op rod clearance, but you may have to relieve the channel also. I think by the time you get that far the receiver clearance will be acceptable, if not flush. Just keep checking as you go. Don't want to file any more than you have to. You, of course, will have to file the left side also. The handguard may also need to be sanded down and may need to be removed until you finish the stock.
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Old February 25th, 2017, 10:30 PM   #22
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Here is the ridge they are talking about. Your does not appear to have it.



Since mine has the ridge, I carefully measured and removed some material from a nice surplus stock and liner to get it too fit right. Ended up with pretty good fit and lock-up.


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Old February 26th, 2017, 02:40 AM   #23
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An easy test to see if the stock liner is the problem, is just remove the liner and see if the receiver sets better. You may need to file the front of the liner to fit your receiver legs.

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Old February 26th, 2017, 05:18 AM   #24
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I think RY has it. The wood from the liner screw forward is causing the problem. If the depth of the top of the liner allows you to file off enough wood you should be able to bring the heel down some. Maybe flush but you will probably have to go all the way to the op rod channel. I believe this will bring the heel down a lot closer to the stock. Use a coarse rasp or file, then tidy up with sand paper. I did just the opposite with my Garand. The space was in the middle and I had to file the rear. It actually hurt me to have to do this but I WANTED that stock to work. Start above the liner screw where the space starts and work your way forward. I really can't see op rod clearance, but you may have to relieve the channel also. I think by the time you get that far the receiver clearance will be acceptable, if not flush. Just keep checking as you go. Don't want to file any more than you have to. You, of course, will have to file the left side also. The handguard may also need to be sanded down and may need to be removed until you finish the stock.
As you file the right a very little at a time, file the left also the same amount. It's very, very important to do this. Don't try to do one side first and then the other. Refit the receiver to the stock periodically and check the fit on both sides. It will get to a point where you will remove a miniscule amount at a time.

You can start with a file, but switch to 400 sandpaper on a block when you start getting close. When you get closer switch to 600. Sand lightly and enjoy.

The reason the gap at the rear appears larger than what you have to remove is because the fixed point is the stock ferrule, and the farther you go from there the larger the gap. Think of spokes on a wheel- close together at the axle and farther apart at the rim.

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Old February 26th, 2017, 06:00 AM   #25
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Totally unrelated but I noticed the clip guide dovetail top is missing and clip guide is welded to receiver.
There is extra metal in leg corners where they meet heel deck.There should be 45 degree corner there with no step. May not be enough to hit liner though.

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Will getting the rear of the receiver onto the stock affect the trigger guard lockup?

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Old February 26th, 2017, 07:25 AM   #27
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Another thing- Notice the cross section of the base of the receiver at the contact points. You will see it has an angle to it. Try to follow that angle. In the end, if you take off too much that area can be glass bedded and if you want, you can do the heel of the receiver.

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Old February 26th, 2017, 08:00 AM   #28
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In comparing pics and the stock of my own rifle I see that the stock liner could come into play. Looks like the rec. may rest on the liner as it descends into the stock. This area may also need filing. I believe that's a mild steel and should not cause too much trouble if it has to be filed.
I know the bayo lug on my Garand was easy and I believe it's a harder steel than the liner.
Sorry, nf1e, I see your comment. Just trying to reassure OP that he can do it. He may have a Dremel. Wouldn't that be nice!

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Old February 26th, 2017, 08:11 AM   #29
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I pulled liner out this morning and exact same issue. If I stick receiver in tail first (incorrectly I know) it sits well but obviously not engaged up front . I marked bottom of receiver starting at front of ferrule area to see if I had contact in channel. None found .
Any smith want to take this on at this point? Don't all flood my mailbox at once , I know you all want to help this idiot out who's wasting your time. , lol
Seriously , you guys have truly been wonderful. Appreciate all the help.

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