I don't have a camera to speak of just yet, but if you have photos to share that would make for a nice thread. I have a H&R USGI stock (It walnut). I know because of the "H" under the aluminium buttplate, at least I think any way.
My stock has a strait forend one it that does not have the same look like others I have seen. (Different manufacturers?) I was looking for the other look, and it seems they have subtle differences.
What is your favorite wooden GI stock maker, and why do you like/ disslike about the differences.?
If I could have chosen, I would have picked one with a thinner fore grip. If you could, please post picks of them, and do. Tell what the differences are and why you like them.
Great work guys! You delivered! This will be great! When I save up and get a nice wooden stock in the near future, I can look at this archiveand maybe either order the make I want or like Ham said, id the stock.
Wanted to share this pic because it's somewhat at odds with the notion that TRW only used a non-serif "P" proof cartouche. This is off my stock, discussed on the main M14 forum, which consensus was that it is TRW/Overton, displaying all the contours one would expect. The serifed P is perhaps rare on an Overton/TRW but nevertheless, there it is. Just wanted to throw that into the mix.
If you have detailed pictures of the complete stock that would be great.
Please post pictures of the wrist(side view),comb(top&side), area just infront of the mag well, front swivel area. Also need to see the DoD cartouche showing the flat sides(both left&right).
Unfortunately the pictures hammon posted were not definitive enough, many other areas still need to be examined. Without the "O" it will always be a question mark.
I have replied to original thread that I missed somehow but to add my two cents
Springfield Armory also used the high arch DAS stamp ,I've had several .
Judging based on the norm its a TRW Overton
Glass bedded 2x, first bedding a bronze metallic color, later skim bedded with a translucent yellowish tan material
Heavily worn handpainted camo, green and black, similar pattern as seen on the XM21 in the West Point Museum ex- Viet Nam with 1st Cav Div
Mystery relief cuts in wood at left side of receiver near scope mount hole and bolt release cutout, as seen on an M21 in a museum in Australia... AN/PVS-2 mount?
Not epoxy impregnated as far as I can tell
No serial number visible in the barrel channel
I believe this to be an M21 stock, possibly later production or replacement, hence no DAS or epoxy impreg
Strip of fiberglass packing tape on butt with handwritten note in ball point pen, barely legible, says "FINISH ***INED PAINT" Possibly a repair tag from the armory?
Here are 3 stocks I have that I can't pinpoint the makers. First picture is all three, and details will be added in the order of top to bottom.
Stock 1, blotchy birch
Chief, on the buttplates, I looked and they all are in perfect alignment. And I can describe the trigger guard areas. Blotchy and Salty have visible flats that form an A shape that goes back to the beginning of the inlets, and in the case of Blotchy, completely around behind the inlet. Oddball is more rounded off. All inlets are the single inlet style. I'll take some more pictures of these areas tomorrow and post them. I'll add them to my postings above.
I am leaning towards Overton on Old Salty, but I may be wrong.
All three have usual characteristics of Overton (TRW) stocks , and may or may not have the (O) under the buttplate. All three have high arch DAS and wide san serif (P) . I've only seen the high arch DAS on SA and TRW.
The wide san serif (P) I've seen on HRA, H.SACHS ,andTRW.
Than I would say the Salty and Blotchy are than Overtons.You say that the storage line up; has the top hole in the metal been drilled out; mine is all chewed up from the drill bit to get it to line up with the storage hole.
IW, That old beat up Salty stock actually has a sarif P stamp. It's hard to see in the picture but it's there. In fact it's the only stock I own that has the sarif P.
Chief, none of the my buttplates have been altered.
Chief and IW, I added a few more pictures to posts 51 & 52. Unfortunately the camera's battery died before I got a picture of the oddballs compartment holes, but they are nothing out of the ordinary.
This is a great thread and needs to be made a sticky IMO.
So other members can contribute the photos of their stocks and a firm data base photo library of the differences of (the -4 )manufacture and the time line of stock manufacture can be established....also how the butt stocks evolved from when the M14 was first adopted before it went into mass production.
It would be great to have a thread here that members can compare their butt stocks to and say this stock went on a H&R that was made in 1961 ect.
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