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Old March 21st, 2007, 05:33 PM   #1
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I have just received my first m1 .I went to the range and the rifle shoots 1" groups @ 25 yards and 4" @ 100yards .However the POI is excatly 2 moa higher than the POA .This is with zero clicks of elevation .

Are there taller front sights for the gun or should i file the base of the rear apature so that i can lower the rear sight in its base? I figure i would need 8 down clicks to make the POI=POA but as the rear sight will not go down any more i cant get those clicks .This led me to thinking i need a taller front sight or to be able to add down clicks to the rear sight.
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Old March 22nd, 2007, 05:42 AM   #2
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When you were shooting your M1 at 100 yards were you shooting from a bench?? If so, where was it resting on the bags???

If you had the rifle supported by the front handguard this can cause some problems with POI. The rifle SHOULD only be supported by the buttstock fore-end, behind the front sling swivel.

If this is not an issue, then my next question is: Have you taken the rear sight apart and cleaned and re-greased it??? There can be crud inside it that's preventing it from lowering all the way.

If THAT's not an issue, then you can trim-file-grind off the lower end of the aperture rack where it bottoms in the sight well to allow it to drop further down in to the receiver. Instructions for this are in the Kuhnhausen Shop Manual for the M1 and M14 Service Rifles.

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Old March 22nd, 2007, 06:55 AM   #3
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Angry Lollipop or Center Hold ???

Just might make a difference .............. My Uncle Sam liked the Lollipop.

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Old March 22nd, 2007, 08:05 AM   #4
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What type of ammo are you using and have you tried another kind?

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Old March 22nd, 2007, 10:00 AM   #5
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6 o'clock hold

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I have just received my first m1 .I went to the range and the rifle shoots 1" groups @ 25 yards and 4" @ 100yards .However the POI is excatly 2 moa higher than the POA .This is with zero clicks of elevation .

Are there taller front sights for the gun or should i file the base of the rear apature so that i can lower the rear sight in its base? I figure i would need 8 down clicks to make the POI=POA but as the rear sight will not go down any more i cant get those clicks .This led me to thinking i need a taller front sight or to be able to add down clicks to the rear sight.
Thank you
If you are using the 6 o'clock hold, the POI should be higher than the point of aim by about 3-6 inches at 100 yards, depending on the size of your target. What type of target, and what type of hold you use makes a difference. Also, your elevation can be adjusted so that the 1 mark hits dead center, i.e. it shoots point of aim without the six o'clock hold.

Hope this helps.

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Old March 22nd, 2007, 11:58 AM   #6
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Old March 22nd, 2007, 07:44 PM   #7
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If none of the above work, Dean's Gun Restorations sells a welded up taller front sight. Not the prettiest welding, and it's probably not JCG legal (the post doesn't look right in profile), but it should work. Also, if you have one available, try a different stock. HTH

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