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Old February 25th, 2017, 09:42 AM   #1
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M1 and M1 Carbine




These two are waiting on me to adopt a M1a.
The carbine is a Quality Hardware and Machine Corporation 1943 build.
The M1 is a S.A.- Blue Sky Armory import refurb.

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Old February 25th, 2017, 10:32 AM   #2
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I think Buffalo arms is just the barrel maker, look behind rear sight for manufacturers name.

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Old February 25th, 2017, 11:08 AM   #3
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I think Buffalo arms is just the barrel maker, look behind rear sight for manufacturers name.
Thanks. Only the serial number is visible. This was given to me by my father in law before he died. I am ignorant as how to move the sight assembly in order to see what is directly underneath. OK just did a video search on the process. Now I'm curious to find out.

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Old February 25th, 2017, 11:13 AM   #4
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Can you make out any letters to the left or right of the rear sight?

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Old February 25th, 2017, 11:23 AM   #5
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If you can make out the first letter, that is usually a good indicator of the manufacturer. You may have to look up under the left side of the sight to see the first letter.

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Old February 25th, 2017, 12:09 PM   #6
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hold it at a angle and with a flashlight look under the rear sight

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Old February 25th, 2017, 12:14 PM   #7
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Was able to hazard a guess then did a search and came up with this:
Quality Hardware and Machine Corporation Chicago, Illinois. the markings are QUALITY H.M.C.. The assigned serial numbers are a match. Production run was from FEB 43-APR 44
They only manufactured the receiver the rest was subcontract and other prime contract parts. Now do I call it a Q.H.M.C. ?




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Old February 25th, 2017, 12:19 PM   #8
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Glad you were able to figure it out. Enjoy your War Baby!

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Couldn't bring up the photo you referred too. Some photos of an HK and some good looking 1911's came up though!
Regardless, it's time for you to go get that M14!

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Old February 25th, 2017, 01:18 PM   #10
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Now do I call it a Q.H.M.C. ?
Yes, either Quality Hardware or QHMC is fine. A lot of the receivers were also strike-overs. Made by one company and used by another company, they sometimes will have a strike-over a couple of letters of the original manufacturer. One of the more collectable strike-over receivers is one made by Union Switch and Signal and used by Quality Hardware. On the receiver it's stamped Un-Quality!!! Wonder what the GI thought when he was issued that carbine. The holy grail of Carbine receivers are the ones made after National Postal Meter change their names to Commercial Controls Corporation. The made about 250 receivers after the name change, marked C.C.C. I don't think anybody has ever seen one. Myself, I own two mix-masters, an S.G. and an NPM, and my father-in-law's bring-back. A Standard Products as issued, that he carried in Italy in '44-'45. -Lloyd

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Old February 25th, 2017, 02:03 PM   #11
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Couldn't bring up the photo you referred too. Some photos of an HK and some good looking 1911's came up though!
Regardless, it's time for you to go get that M14!
Should be fixed.

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I think Buffalo arms is just the barrel maker, look behind rear sight for manufacturers name.
My IBM carbine has a Buffalo Arms barrel.

Federal's American Eagle loads give me honest 3 1/2" 5 shot groups at 100 from that rifle, for a carbine that's match grade accuracy.

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Old February 25th, 2017, 08:46 PM   #13
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Nice. I brought my Quality Hardware Blue Sky import and an SAI commercial NM M1 to CO with me. Next time I go up to my house in the Seattle area I'll probably bring a few more of each back with me.

Brought one of my 7.62MM 18" M14's and picked up a 1903 Remington while I'm down here.

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very nice. can't wait to get an m1 when im back stateside

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Old February 26th, 2017, 06:48 AM   #15
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That is some good looking wood on the Carbine.

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