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This is a discussion on Bill To Bring Back M1's From Korea HR 1137 within the Steel and Wood forums, part of the Rifle Forum category; Originally Posted by Red Leg I was not impressed with the last go around. Who remembers the blue sky import M1 carbines from S. Korea. ...


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Old February 25th, 2017, 04:02 PM   #16
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I was not impressed with the last go around. Who remembers the blue sky import M1 carbines from S. Korea. I ended up pounding mine barrel first down a prairie dog hole in remote Montana. No doubt some archaeologist will be scratching his head about that a hundred years from now.
But remember , even the bad ones will have lots of good parts. Especially receivers.

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Old February 25th, 2017, 06:03 PM   #17
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I bought mine in 1988. I chased the SN # down and found out it was last issued in the Philippines. The barrel looks like the surface of the moon but i can hit a coffee cup offhand at 100 yards with surplus ammo in the 1st 3 shots. I paid 320 USAnian dollars for it. Perhaps and influx of more will drive some prices down.
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Old February 25th, 2017, 07:30 PM   #18
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I'll see your sewer pipe barrels and West Asian termite bitten wood and raise you Criterion barrels, Boyd's stocks and a trip through the parkerizing tank...

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Old February 25th, 2017, 08:56 PM   #19
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I got my nose into the trough when the CMP was selling NIW mid 50's M1 barrels and picked up four. Should be good to go for awhile.

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Old February 25th, 2017, 09:00 PM   #20
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But remember , even the bad ones will have lots of good parts. Especially receivers.
I was an FFL back then and sold about a dozen Blue Sky Import M1's. While well used for the most part no one ever brought one back.

I brought a Blue Sky Quality Hardware M1 Carbine down to CO with me and its a good shooter and pretty clean.

I do remember one Blue Sky M1 that came through that had been heavily stamped on the barrel. Most that I sold were pretty lightly stamped.

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Old February 26th, 2017, 06:53 AM   #21
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This is exciting news!! Maybe this could transpire into more M-14 parts kits coming back as well.

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Old February 26th, 2017, 08:42 AM   #22
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I was an FFL back then and sold about a dozen Blue Sky Import M1's. While well used for the most part no one ever brought one back.

I brought a Blue Sky Quality Hardware M1 Carbine down to CO with me and its a good shooter and pretty clean.

I do remember one Blue Sky M1 that came through that had been heavily stamped on the barrel. Most that I sold were pretty lightly stamped.
Yep , I had some M1 rifles and carbines my shop that were stamped so heavily it actually constricted the bore. A .299 gage pin should drop thru , but on more than 1 , a .295 would stop at the stamping location.

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I'll see your sewer pipe barrels and West Asian termite bitten wood and raise you Criterion barrels, Boyd's stocks and a trip through the parkerizing tank...
Thats kind of the plan. Wife won't let that happen with me just taking home retirement scratch tho.
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Back in the late 80s to late 90s I worked for one of the largest gun dealers in the country. We purchased M1 Garands and M1 Carbines by the pallets loads and wholesaled them. Excel, Blue Sky and Arlington Ordnance all imported M1s Garands and M1 carbines from Korea. They were all the same people just different corporate names. Excel was the first. When Excel sold out of the guns they imported they closed shop. They then did another deal in Korea and imported them under the name of Blue Sky. When they sold out of those imported guns they again closed shop. When they made their final deal in Korea they imported them under the name Arlington Ordnance . One thing Arlington Ordnance did that Excel and Blue Sky did not do was to offer M1 Garands with new commercial barrels and M1 Garand Tankers they built. Arlington Ordnance had a shop n West Virginia where the guns were sorted, shipped from and ones needing rebuild were rebuilt.
Having handled hundreds upon hundreds of M1 Garands and Carbine from the three importers I have to say they were not up to DCM/CMP standards. However there were many good guns and some rare guns in there. A lot showed two on a bore erosion gauge but the muzzles were eroded. I was told this was caused by launching grenades. Others had excellent bores. I hope they bring in the rest of the guns from Korea along with the spare parts that are still there.

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Thanks RDS I love hearing these esoteric facts from the hey day of cheap imports.When I was a kid my uncle gave me a stack of 60's American Rifleman magazines. I don't know how many times I carried one to my dad wanting to know why he didn't buy a garand for $60 or a Lathi for a $109 back then. Lol He would just shrug probably because he was trying to raise a family by loading box cars by hand at Campbell soups.

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Having handled hundreds upon hundreds of M1 Garands and Carbine from the three importers I have to say they were not up to DCM/CMP standards
Thanks for that historical information, that confirms my impression as well from looking at some of those old imports. I have plenty of M1s - but would never buy one of those imports given that CMP rifles are typically in better shape, properly graded (with CMP certificates for the snipers), lack import stamps - and will most likely be less expensive than these Korean imports that I suspect will include a lot of "rack grade or less" quality...

I really don't get what all the fuss is about re these old Korean rifles that may be of the same poor quality as the earlier batch of rough M1s from Korea circa 1980s/1990s - the only difference is these Korean rifles have had 25+ more years to potentially accumulate rust and/or oxidation on the metal parts and barrel bores (I recall that most Korean 30-06 ammo was in fact corrosive)...Indeed, no one knows what the storage conditions are like - or what preservative measures might have taken place - if any - when they were put into storage decades ago.

Just buy from CMP and you'll know what you are getting - and it will be at a far price. Fixating on these near mythological "Korean M1s" is rather odd, as it is likely to be items of lower quality but higher in prices, and that is not something to get excited about. My 2cts worth.

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Old March 1st, 2017, 12:30 PM   #27
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I bought a couple Blue Sky M1's back in the early 1990's and they just needed new barrels and stocks. The price was right at $200 each so I had no complaints.

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You'll love this. I had a Blue Sky M1 I bought in the 90s. I sold it to buy my first brand new pistol when I turned 21.


A Glock22.

That was before I new about all the resources to swap out the stock and barrel. I think in general the rifle parts all seemed in very good shape, easy candidate for barrel upgrade. I think it was an International Harvestor. I didn't have a decent range or know better to check how accurate it was in those days. I just recently got a CMP Special which has a new barrel and new stock.

Maybe CMP could buy these and grade them out and make a bunch of specials or reduce cost offerings.

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