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Old February 18th, 2017, 11:13 AM   #1
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REMINGTON 1903A3

Hello, I have the opportunity to acquire a superb remington 1903A3, it is dated 1944 and the barrel has only 2 grooves, the accuracy is the same as on the 4-groove barrel ?

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Old February 18th, 2017, 11:21 AM   #2
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2-groove barrels were pretty much standard on Remingtons till the end of the war , and were proven just as accurate as 4-groove. The US 1903A4 sniper rifles were made by Remington with the same 2-groove barrels.

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Old February 18th, 2017, 11:59 AM   #3
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Yes, I recently acquired the same rifle, 2 groove and despite my anxiety about it, no worries. Shoots just great. I recently read an old report from the army, wherein they tested side by side for accuracy and at the end of one endurance test the 2 groove won! So essentially no difference.

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Old February 19th, 2017, 07:46 PM   #4
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Not to do a hijack but seems a good place for my question. Were war time 03A3s ever used in actual combat overseas?

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Old February 19th, 2017, 07:56 PM   #5
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https://www.americanrifleman.org/art...-m1903-rifles/

Bruce Canfield would know.

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Old March 18th, 2017, 03:35 PM   #6
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I have two 03-A3's, one has a 4-groove barrel and the other has a 2-groove. Both are Remingtons with excellent bore and muzzle. They shoot similar groups out to 300 yards, which is the furthest i've tried to shoot them off a bench rest.

My father carried one in the Pacific during WWII, so yes, they did go overseas. I let him shoot one of mine back in '96 or '97 and he was still deadly with it.

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Old March 18th, 2017, 03:42 PM   #7
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1903_Springfield

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Old March 18th, 2017, 06:09 PM   #8
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I remember from somewhere it being said that the 2 groove are as accurate as the 4 groove.
Just that the 2 groove barrel life is a bit shorter.

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Old March 18th, 2017, 06:43 PM   #9
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Not only did Remington use two groove barrels on 03A3 but also on 03A4. Johnson Automatics made 2 groove barrels for 1917s during WW2. They were used in the arsenal rebuild of 1917s.


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Old March 18th, 2017, 07:09 PM   #10
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In 1941 the U.S. was in overdrive trying to increase weapon production for the war. Garands were the priority for the Ordnance Department and Remington was contracted to produce the 1903 rifle. To save time and material the Remington engineers made some changes to the 1903 (sight/stock/barrels 4 to 2 groove). These mods became the 1903A3 produced by Remington and Smith Corona. Many of the Remington/Smith Corona 1903A3s saw combat with the Free French Forces under DeGaulle. The U.S provided 1903A3s to Allies that were reconstituting their forces that had collapsed earlier against the Germans and Japanese. Even though the U.S. was the only country using a semi-automatic as its main battle rifle the Free French were a bit irate at being given a 'second-line' rifle. Those 2 groove rifles can also be tack drivers, no loss of quality.
I'm not sure if these rifle were ever returned by the Allies after the these countries got back on their feet. Canfield has an excellent reference book on the 03 Springfield.

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Old March 18th, 2017, 07:18 PM   #11
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I heard back in the day guys who shot cast bullets coveted 2 grove barrels, supposed to be more accurate on cast.

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Old March 22nd, 2017, 10:59 AM   #12
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They are just as good. If the price is right Buy it. The 1903A3 is one of my favorites (I have 3 of them)

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Old March 22nd, 2017, 01:58 PM   #13
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Two grooves can be very accurate and rival four. I doubt with my skills I would ever see the difference. I think the 03A3 is one of the nicest looking military rifles, and the upgraded sights are outstanding.

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Old March 22nd, 2017, 02:06 PM   #14
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I may have previously mentioned this, but many years ago the old DCM was attempting to clear out inventory that had been around for a long time and in large quantity. One such item was M1903A3 two groove barrels, still brand new in the original wrap. They intended to get rid of these and reduced the price to 95 each. Yes, 95. They got rid of them fairly quickly.

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Old March 22nd, 2017, 06:58 PM   #15
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My A3 is a Remington also, a Feb 42 barrel date & FJA stock. It has some '03 furniture, trigger housing & a front band I believe. But by the looks of the old park on the metal they been there it's whole life, matches perfect.

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