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Old January 7th, 2017, 02:11 PM   #1
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M1 Carbine Ammo Cans?

Was there such a thing? A specific, marked---M1 Carbine .30 Cal Ammo Can?

I have been looking around and can't find either such a CAN or alternatively info that there wasn't such a thing !?

I feel like I've seen this issue pop up before...but I can't find it here, probably because all the words are so generic !?



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Old January 7th, 2017, 02:30 PM   #2
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I have a WW2 can marked for carbine ammo. It is a "spam can". Once opened, no more use.

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Old January 7th, 2017, 02:34 PM   #3
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I did find these at www.ammogarand.Com





The second one is like the one I have.

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I picked up a bunch of carbine ammo from CMP awhile back. Looks like about 6 cans left in the stash.



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Old January 7th, 2017, 03:02 PM   #5
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I have one of the .30 Carbine marked .50 Cal.-sized cans from the '60's (still almost full) with the Ball rounds on strippers and in bandoleers. Possibly 1050 or 1150 rounds originally. Will have to dig it out of the pile. Can't recall seeing a .30 Cal.-sized can marked for .30 Carbine ammo...but I haven't seen everything yet, either. (Paid $0.04 / round for it at an Oshman's Sporting Goods store in Houston, Tx., circa 1963 or 1964.)

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Thanks, guys!

That helps a lot!

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Old January 7th, 2017, 03:23 PM   #7
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During WWII all the .30 Carbine ammo was packed in cartons until the very end of the war when 30 rd mags were introduced and then the stripper clips were developed and it started to be packed in clips and bandoleers. The 600 rd spam can with the ammo, both Ball and Tracer, in clips and bandoleers is Korean War vintage and up through the mid-1950's. There was also a 900 rd version, same size can, with the ammo in cartons. What we now view as the standard .50 cal size ammo can came into use in the later 1950's and Carbine ammo was packed in them, generally in clips and bandoleers. It took them a few years to figure out how to go from 840 rds in a can to 1080 rds. There was quite a bit of .30 Carbine Ball made in the early 1970's, and it was packed both in cartons and clips and bandoleers, but the clips were the newer style without the built in charger guide. They were similar to M16 strippers and had a charger guide in the first pocket of the bandoleer. Here are some photos.

Back in the early 1960's when the DCM was handling the sale of Carbines to NRA members at $20.00 each, 600 rd spam cans of ammo could be purchased, max of 2 cans per year, at a cost of $27.00 per can. That's 4 per rd.
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During WWII all the .30 Carbine ammo was packed in cartons until the very end of the war when 30 rd mags were introduced and then the stripper clips were developed and it started to be packed in clips and bandoleers. The 600 rd spam can with the ammo, both Ball and Tracer, in clips and bandoleers is Korean War vintage and up through the mid-1950's. There was also a 900 rd version, same size can, with the ammo in cartons. What we now view as the standard .50 cal size ammo can came into use in the later 1950's and Carbine ammo was packed in them, generally in clips and bandoleers. It took them a few years to figure out how to go from 840 rds in a can to 1080 rds. There was quite a bit of .30 Carbine Ball made in the early 1970's, and it was packed both in cartons and clips and bandoleers, but the clips were the newer style without the built in charger guide. They were similar to M16 strippers and had a charger guide in the first pocket of the bandoleer. Here are some photos.

Back in the early 1960's when the DCM was handling the sale of Carbines to NRA members at $20.00 each, 600 rd spam cans of ammo could be purchased, max of 2 cans per year, at a cost of $27.00 per can. That's 4 per rd.
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Old January 7th, 2017, 04:34 PM   #9
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Still on the M1 Carbines...

INLAND has been Re-Born, Right?

They are making essentially New Reproductions of the WWII/Korea War Carbines...

The PRICES, for example on GunBroker, for these New Inlands...seem to be considerably higher than the Originals...

What is the 'dynamic' here? Is it that the New ones are 'NEW', as in Pristine?

I have not gotten the impression that the New Inlands are in any way---Premium Firearms?

Is the concern that many of the Originals can be 'Mix-Masters'? Or perhaps worn-out parts or shot-out barrels?

I'm just trying to understand the 'logic' or lack thereof, in this...

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Old January 7th, 2017, 06:26 PM   #10
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I can't speak authoritatively about the "new" Inland carbines, but those persons I have spoken with who have fired them do not endorse them. In fact, I believe there is a video on You Tube where a person is attempting to shoot one and has continuing failures.

Nor can I explain why they would be priced higher than a GI carbine. There are lots of GI carbines available that still have excellent barrels, and if need be, excellent quality commercially made barrels are available. In my view, I would always purchase a GI carbine over any commercially made one.

It is quite common for any GI Carbine to be a mixmaster as most were rebuilt more than once. There was a massive rebuild program following WWII where most Carbines were converted to M2, and that required that quite a few parts be replaced. I would not have any concern about a GI Carbine being a mixmaster.

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Technically, the reusable can is an M2 or M2A1 ammo can.

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During WWII all the .30 Carbine ammo was packed in cartons until the very end of the war when 30 rd mags were introduced and then the stripper clips were developed and it started to be packed in clips and bandoleers. The 600 rd spam can with the ammo, both Ball and Tracer, in clips and bandoleers is Korean War vintage and up through the mid-1950's. There was also a 900 rd version, same size can, with the ammo in cartons. What we now view as the standard .50 cal size ammo can came into use in the later 1950's and Carbine ammo was packed in them, generally in clips and bandoleers. It took them a few years to figure out how to go from 840 rds in a can to 1080 rds. There was quite a bit of .30 Carbine Ball made in the early 1970's, and it was packed both in cartons and clips and bandoleers, but the clips were the newer style without the built in charger guide. They were similar to M16 strippers and had a charger guide in the first pocket of the bandoleer. Here are some photos.

Back in the early 1960's when the DCM was handling the sale of Carbines to NRA members at $20.00 each, 600 rd spam cans of ammo could be purchased, max of 2 cans per year, at a cost of $27.00 per can. That's 4 per rd.
I have two of the 600rd. Spam cans, dated 1954, which I purchased back in the late '80s/early '90s for $125.00 each. I opened one of them a few years ago. 5 bandoliers w/6 pockets, 10rds each stripper w/ built in charger guide with 2 strippers to a carton and 1 carton to a pocket. The cartons are folded around the clips in an "S" fashion. The rounds are boxer primed. -Lloyd

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I know that I'm late to the party, but I have seen both Spam cans and ammo cans over the years for the M1 carbines.



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Pretty sure my ammo has the stripper clips with the sliding chargers. Curiosity about the date also bugs me. Will have to find it now!

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Can I post this ? The video of the carbine failures Garden Valley said he saw was probably a site called "In Range"
The new Inland's look to be investment cast.

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