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Old December 31st, 2016, 07:04 PM   #1
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Safe ammo for M1 Garand?????

I bought some ones handloads for what I thought was a good price. Some were in enblocs some weren't, but he said they were all loaded for the M1. He sounded like he knew what he was doing, but now I'm not so sure.

I pulled two rounds apart to see what I got. Both have 57 grains of powder. One had a COAL of 3.15 and the other was longer (I forget the number). Both well short of the length the book calls out. One was 165 grain bullet and the other 150. Brass looks unused R-P marked.

I reloaded the two rounds I pulled apart with different 155 grain bullets and 55 and 56 grains of powder respectively.

Do these rounds sound safe?

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Old December 31st, 2016, 07:29 PM   #2
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Not really for a couple reasons. Those weights might indicate a slow powder which is not appropriate for the M1, or if the correct powder they are way over max. I would say maybe safe to shoot in a bolt action if at all but would not chance them in an M1.

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Old December 31st, 2016, 07:35 PM   #3
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Lesson learned! Never buy "reloads" or "Hand loads" from anyone.
Hell not even from me!
Because there is no way to know!

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Old December 31st, 2016, 07:41 PM   #4
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Lesson learned! Never buy "reloads" or "Hand loads" from anyone.
Hell not even from me!
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Great advice, well said!

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I'm new to reloading. I'm assuming I can buy a bullet puller that won't ruin the bullets. Replace the powder and put the bullets back in. Does this sound logical?

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I'm new to reloading. I'm assuming I can buy a bullet puller that won't ruin the bullets. Replace the powder and put the bullets back in. Does this sound logical?
You can do that. An "impact' puller looks like a plastic hammer with a way to hold the cartridge. They work OK unless you have a lot of rounds to do or if they are crimped. Pounding those things on the concrete gets old in a hurry.

A collet puller fits on your press. Costs more but is worth it for larger jobs.

(Be careful if you dispose of the old powder by burning. Last summer during a dry spell I started a small fire on my lawn doing that. Fortunately my wife was at her mother's for a couple of weeks and it grew out before she got home!)

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Old December 31st, 2016, 10:40 PM   #7
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Pull the bullets and dump the powder. Reload with a known safe load for the Garand.

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Old December 31st, 2016, 10:49 PM   #8
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57 gr of anything has gotta be close to filling up the case. Thats my first impression. The most generic, most accurate load in my opinion is 46 gr of imr4064 pushing 155 gr hpbt. You need to look up a good reloading manual and work up a load, but that load is good to go.

165 gr bullet is fine, but if you cant identify the powder, i would suggest you dump the powder and start from scratch.

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Old December 31st, 2016, 11:12 PM   #9
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Never buy "reloads" or "Hand loads" from anyone.
Same advice I follow. If it's a great deal for just the primed brass and projectiles, then I buy and pull it down. I label all containers of my handloads so that anyone would know what's in them, but I still wouldn't blame someone for not trusting them/me.

Too much at risk...

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Old January 1st, 2017, 06:51 AM   #10
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Never shoot someone else's hand loads.

Listen to these guys, get a collet bullet puller and pull them all.

The old powder makes good fertilizer in the garden.

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http://masterpostemple.bravepages.com/Index.html 3006 loads for garand
http://www.schustermfg.com/m1-garand...able-gas-plug/

always buy ammo that states for m1 garand

shusters plug,if your going to use std factory

if your going to reload, case gauge and good chronograph

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Old January 1st, 2017, 07:06 AM   #12
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Lesson learned! Never buy "reloads" or "Hand loads" from anyone.
Hell not even from me!
Because there is no way to know!
This ^^^^

I have a buddy that used to talk about a "Pro Reloader" he'd go to and have his rounds made up, we put those rounds on a chrony and between that and the recoil it was definitely too stout for the Garand, I ended up having him get a collet puller and I redid something on the order of 500 rounds for him and used 4895 instead, I kept the old powder for my efforts that looked like W748 but you never know for sure, I used that reclaimed powder to work loads up in my bolt-guns.

Few things for sure to learn from this, a collet puller is the most efficient way to breakdown a bunch of ammo, can't remember the one we bought at the moment but the same puller can be used with different calibers just by getting another inexpensive collet as I also did a bunch of 45ACP from the same guy. AND don't trust anyone else's reloads period if you like your firearm & body parts...

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What bullet puller do you guys recommend?

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Old January 1st, 2017, 10:30 AM   #14
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What bullet puller do you guys recommend?
There's probably fancier ways to go, but I just use a standard RCBS kinetic puller:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/685...let-puller-kit

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Old January 1st, 2017, 01:21 PM   #15
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RCBS also makes a good collet puller that goes on your press. Have used one for years, have 6 different collets. Hornady's manual has a section in it for service rifles-M1 & M1A.

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