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Old May 12th, 2015, 11:15 PM   #46
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Very nice mini..probably the nicest one I've ever seen..seriously.

Had a stainless, pre-ban ranch with folding stock. I traded it for a 2" Colt Diamondback.
I recall my mini shooting a near max load of RL15, Nosler 68-69 grainer into nickel sized ragged holes at 50 yards with the standard sights.

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Old May 13th, 2015, 09:16 PM   #47
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I really like how your finish turned out. I've never had a mini 14 but I do have a mini 30. it is an older stainless steel with the birch stock. I have a PDP3 Tasco red dot on it. it is a deer killin little sob!

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Pretty cool, lookin' good!
I do kinda miss my Mini...
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Old May 14th, 2015, 12:46 AM   #49
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Great looking mini - thanks for sharing the pics !!

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Thank you everyone for the warm welcomes. I am on the last stretch before the name of the thread will come true "Mini 14 conversion complete". It has taken a bit but will be worth it and is already worth it.

The M16A1 butt plate is in and will need a tiny bit of work to get it fitted, it looks a lot like a Garand butt plate. I bought a 5 dollar cheapy just for test fittings and experiments. A new one is on the way while I practice on this crappy one and get it fit just right.

Also the mini 14 sling swivels are getting to me. I hate these tiny slings now with a passion.(i'm use to the thicker leather slings on my Garand, 1903, Turk Mauser, M1a) After the butt plate is finished on this mini, then the front and rear swivels will be removed and some M1a sling mounts from Fulton will be installed.
http://www.fulton-armory.com/buttswivelm1m14.aspx
http://www.fulton-armory.com/frontst...wassembly.aspx

Also when the front mini 14 sling swivel is removed there will be a hole there in the steel. Anyone have any idea of something to fill the hole? JBWeld? Hammer in a piece of steel as sort of a rivet?

If anyone has any ideas or advice or find anything online, send me a PM or reply on here. I'm 25 years I don't know that many ol tricks. All I do is multiple hours of research before I make a decision. Thanks.

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Old June 23rd, 2015, 11:59 AM   #51
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Sorry for the wall of text in advance, scroll down past wall for gun porn.

Alright everyone I tried to edit my first post on this thread but was unable to. However the moment of truth is here, my journey to make a militarized mini 14 or a mini 14 to look like an m14 is done. It has been dubbed the M14A2 by many people as well as M1A2. And to me something very close to this rifle would of been perfect and probably used for Vietnam had we listened to Garand in the first place back in the 1930's. It would of been very possible but instead we didn't listen to him and we used inblock clips and 30-06. Then later in Vietnam ended up toting around the "PLATFORM" which in my opinion should be used as a teething device for small kids, BUT anyway rant aside this rifle has cost me around what I would of gladly payed for a 5.56 M1a. (If one existed) This rifle has gone through many different changes in appearance, from ugly ol mini 14, to a closer mini 14 m1a look alike, from blued, to Parkerized, to Cerekoted, and now the end product of a year of work (off and on) and countless hours of research combing the internet. I will list every change and where to get them (if possible) and of course pictures are down below. If anyone has any questions ask away.

Parts, things done, and changes.

Gas system : Accu-strut Socom from http://www.accu-strut.com/pages/more%20info_socom.htm
It helps with accuracy, mocks the gas system required for the look, and is easy to acquire and install. This device actually has a purpose other than aesthetics which is awesome. I prefer the Socom for look. It mimics the gas system better than the others.

Muzzle device : AMK Tactical flash hider from http://amktactical.com/Ruger-Mini-14...er-Optic-Sight
This is actually a pretty effective flash hider. It was an outright pain to install to be honest. The old front sight had to be removed which required a lot of banging, bashing, and cursing to accomplish. I highly recommend a jig of some sort. Then the front sight is to be mailed to AMK for machining purposes. Then you receive your front sight/flash hider and old useless front sight and now more banging, bashing, and cursing is required to put the new flash hider front sight on. In the end the look of this this is great and no other muzzle device comes close to the M14 than this, and to top it off the quality of this product is top notch.

Hand Guard : Modified M14/M1A Hand Guard from Fulton Armory http://www.fulton-armory.com/handgua...lassblack.aspx
This hand guard was easy to work with using a drimmel and belt sander. To get this to work you will just have to swag it to be honest just remove some then test fit then remove some then test fit. Do not cut off the front of the hand guard to shorten it. Cut of the rear to shorten. It just makes it easier. To make the hand guard stay I took the barrel clip from the original wart hand guard and used a nail to rivet it in. The head of the nail was ground flush and the hand guard was ground a little in so the head of the rivet would be as flush as possible. JB weld was used to strength and to smooth out where the rivet is. You can hardly even tell a rivet is there now. This is probably the hardest thing to do on this conversion other than flash hider. And as for the retaining clip on the hand guard. It is just a Mock retaining clip and it is made from some sheet steel that was cut with sheers no science behind it just eyeballed. I drimeled a recess on each side of the hand guard for the clip to ride in to prevent sliding back and forth. It was bent around the top of the hand guard and folded around and into the two recesses at the bottom.

1.25'' Front Sling Swivel : front sling swivel was purchased from Fulton Armory http://www.fulton-armory.com/frontst...wassembly.aspx
The Mini 14 sling swivel that attaches to the gas block I outright hate. It was removed with pliers, some muscle, and some harsh language. I want to fill the hole that the swivel was in but haven't figured out the route i'm going to take yet. It doesn't bother me that much yet so i'm not worried about it. The M14/M1A swivel from Fulton was installed into the front of the stock about 2 inches from the gas block. Drill 2 hols and augur the holes inside of the stock so the nuts fit flush. Easy job no cursing or anything which is surprising.

1.25'' Rear Sling Swivel : Purchased from Numrich https://www.gunpartscorp.com/Products/253940.htm I originally wanted to take the M14 rear sling route but its a pain, requires some pro drilling, and i'm too damn lazy for that. So i took out the old mini sling swivel and drilled the hole about half an inch deeper and installed this 1.25'' swivel. I have seen the M14 rear sling installed on a Mini14 but I just don't trust my personal skills so I didn't do it. Another rout and one i'm considering is a Springfield 1903 rear sling swivel also sold on Numrich. Of course you can go the quick detach swivels but personally I think they are outright ugly.

Rear Sight : The rear sight is the MINI200 Tech-Sight purchased from Sunflower Outdoor Sports http://www.sunfloweroutdoorsports.co...ywords=mini200 It was sold out everywhere but this place. Believe me when I say everywhere. If you want one get it while you can Tech sights isn't showing any return time on this product. While this device doesn't do much in the aesthetics department it does however give you one hell of a rear sight for the mini14 and is definitely a vast improvement. Great quality, great aperture, and easy installation. It is also more stable than the original sight. The sight is larger and does give a little aesthetics of M14 due to it being larger. But other than that it is just an accuracy upgrade and reliably upgrade.

Butt plate : M16A1 Butt plate from Numrich and Fulton Armory https://www.gunpartscorp.com/ad/555720.htm#555720B
http://www.fulton-armory.com/buttplatea1.aspx When I revived the butt plate from Numrich the plastic that the door rests in was cracked. Which is extremely common on these and the butt plate was listed as used so I expected it. However I was purchasing it for testing fitting purposes in mind because I was toying with the Idea and deciding on what rout I was going to take for a military style butt plate. I eventually decided on the M16A1 butt plate (Not M16A2 which looks like it should be used as a meet tenderizer) I kept the door from the Numrich butt plate and just ordered new plastic from Fulton without the door. The door is used and needs to be cerekoted but I kinda like the used look of it. I will eventually cerekote it. It was a decent fit and the wood mini 14 stock almost seemed to be made for it. However the holes from the old rubber clothing catching butt pad from Ruger were off compared to the m16 butt plate. The hole on top matched the butt plate but the bottom one was too low. Or maybe it was the other way around I don't remember. However I just screwed in the hole that did line up with the butt plate and stock and marked and drilled a hole for the other screw hole. After that there was another problem. There is a gap between the butt plate and stock about a quarter of an inch. I contemplated with the idea of filling it in with JB weld but the color of JB is grey and so I decided to use a goop/bondo/gasket rubber sealer kind of stuff from ACE Hardware. I'm sure Home Depot, Walmart, Discount auto and the like all have this stuff. It was gooey and very pliable. I squeezed the goo into the gap and used a credit card to even it out and to squish it into the gap better. I did 2 or 3 layers. I used the same credit card (brand used disclosed) and trimmed it with a razor blade. It actually wasn't too hard. The trapdoor has no use right now due to a hole needing to be drilled to put stuff into such as some grease and a bore snake. But it sure looks great and NO MORE STUPID CATCHING ON CLOTHS CRAP PAD. I hated that pad I really really did. I'm so glad its gone.

Magazine : The magazine was originally ordered from The Country Shed http://www.thecountryshed.com/mini-1...ccessories.htm But after I bought one to test functionality and bought a second it was sold out. And it just so happens to be non existant. Very rare and very good magazines made from steel. The follower sucks but just order Ruger followers for a couple bucks. I had some luck finding some Straight Magazines from Gunbroker. It seems to be your only chance unless someone decides to make some or something. Good luck on this avenue. The magazines I found work flawlessly are John Masen 20 Round Straight Magazines for the Mini 14 from my research. If anyone has any or finds any for sale let me know.

Finish : It was Blued Out of the box. Everything was Parkerized which looked better. But eventually I went with Cerekote Armor Black. Everything was sandblasted and Cerekoted. Except the magazine I kept the magazines Parkerized. However i'm looking at Cerekote Sniper Grey http://www.cerakoteguncoatings.com/f...Q/sniper-grey/ for a replacement to this. And for the same color I get more strength than parkerizing.

Sling : Sling used was bought from Fulton Armory http://www.fulton-armory.com/slingwebnewblack.aspx Its the sling you see on 03's, M14s, Garands.

Stock : The stock is actually the Ruger Ranch rifle stock. I sanded the weird wallpaper like crap on the stock which revealed a hard wood of some kind like beech wood or something. However the grain is actually pretty nice. It took a long time sanding.....A very long time to get this wallpaper crap off. I tried linseed oil at first. However this is extremely dense wood and it wouldn't do anything. So I found some mahogany stain. from ACE hardware. I put 2 or 3 coats on it I still might put another coat or 2. I don't know yet. But I like it where it is.

The end result is one hell of a head turner. It has confused some people at the range during the start of its transformation and now at its completed state it even confuses and tricks die hard M14 fans and vets. It shoots 1 moa with decent 55g ammo, its reliable, and its pretty. I present to you the M14a2 or M1a2 enjoy!


















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Old June 23rd, 2015, 12:09 PM   #52
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AWESOME!

I noticed you had trouble with the mags... Did you try CDNN? They were by far my favorite magazines for the Mini14. Flawless and straight.

*edit: just realized CDNN no longer lists their 20 round straight mags... what a shame.

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Old June 23rd, 2015, 12:16 PM   #53
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I have had no problems with John Masen It was due to an after market mag release I was testing and it was causing problems with all magazines. If anyone knows how I can edit the first post of this thread let me know. I would like to make post #51 my threads first post. O well. Wont let me edit my first post. Anyway during my research CDNN were awesome but are also like john masen straight mags or any straight 20 rounders now. Gone.

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I have had no problems with John Masen It was due to an after market mag release I was testing and it was causing problems with all magazines. If anyone knows how I can edit the first post of this thread let me know. I would like to make post #51 my threads first post. O well. Wont let me edit my first post. Anyway during my research CDNN were awesome but are also like john masen straight mags or any straight 20 rounders now. Gone.
Unbelievable. The only reason I'd want a Mini14 is to make it a smaller clone of my M14, and now that is off the table.

You can't edit posts after a certain length of time, but maybe an admin will.

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Old June 23rd, 2015, 01:12 PM   #55
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My advice is to search gunbroker and numrich. I was able to snag 2 magazines that are straight recently.Both from gunbroker and both are of unknown origin. John Mason straight 20 rounders have a green follower. These have black followers so they arnt John Mason mags like the 2 others I have. And the followers on these I got from gunbroker have different followers from each other. Both are also longer than the John Mason magazines I have, as well as slightly different length of each other. One im able to fit 23 rounds into and the other I was able to fit 26 rounds into. The 23 rounder is double feeding so the feed lips need to be angled inwards a little. And the 26 rounder isn't chambering rounds so the feed lips need to be bent upwards. Seems to be decently built material wise but the quality control seems to be third worldish. The 23 rounder has Mini14 stamped on the bottom.

If an admin would allow me to change my first post of this thread it would be much appreciated.

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Now that's how a mini should look. I absolutely love it!

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Old June 23rd, 2015, 08:09 PM   #58
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Great work and very informative!

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Old September 19th, 2015, 08:14 PM   #59
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Ok guys the 20 round mini 14 straight magazines are back at CDNN right now. I don't know how many they have and don't know how long they will last. I have ordered 6 and 2 weeks from now if they are not all gone I will be getting another 10 or 14 or god knows how many. These things don't just pop up anymore. These straight magazines are rare and hard to come by. Ive been messaged by many people on here and the ruger forums about where to find these straight style magazines. The John Masen ones I have are not even made anymore. Its been 3 or so years since they were. And I haven't seen CDNN 20 round straights in at least that many years. These CDNN magazines are said to be better than the John Masen magazines (I never had problems with my Masens) So if you are wanting that old school M14 look magazines get some now because they wont be here for long i'm sure. If you do get them please don't get them just to gouge people and mark them up for resale. Buy them for you and for your friends. Only M14 and old school fans really are interested in these. But these things are priced competitively so just about anyone will be getting them. However the money makers will be buying these things up and wait for these to sell out because people like me will pay 30$ or 40$ + for these. Get these now while you can.



GO NOW GO BUY THEM BECAUSE IF YOU DONT I WILL!
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Do they actually work well, too? I'm leary of a $13 magazine for a Mini-14.

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