M14 Forum

Jersey Devil · January 30th, 2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rscalzo

Yes, it does. But I would still look into joining one of the area clubs to take advantage of it and get some rounds downrange. My first time shooting a Garand was back in the late 60's at Cherry Ridge with out PAL Rifle Club.

10-4!!
Thank you, Sir!

mercman · January 30th, 2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Devil

Thank you, Sir!
Ok, good then I am getting ready to do this CMP thing. I should have done this years ago, but that is typical of me :)

Anyway, I was having a look at the CMP site and I am stuck between a Correct Grade and a Special Grade........any preferences here?????

Brian,

I think that I brainfarted on the affiliated membership question. I don't think that your commission satisfies the affiliated membership requirement. I submit my WAC or my civilian range membership card when I order. Check out their website or shoot them an email.

I've always gone with the service grades as I'm more into the history aspect of the M1's. If you're looking for a shooter the Special would be the way to go and if you want the history the Correct Grade would be your choice............................

Regards, Kurt

Jason0839 · January 30th, 2012, 12:52 PM

Well everyone already beat me to the punch, but yes go CMP. You will have a historic weapon that you will cherish. I have 2 CMP Garands, one is a Korean era CMP special SA, and the other is a post war collector grade. Both are great shooters, again highly recommended to go the CMP route, you will not regret it.

1KPerDay · January 30th, 2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Devil

Anyway, I was having a look at the CMP site and I am stuck between a Correct Grade and a Special Grade........any preferences here?????

Between those two, if you plan on only getting one garand and not shooting it a lot, I'd get the Correct grade, personally.

But they are pricey. And the advantage over a good Service grade is primarily in the "all matching" parts. Which may or may not matter to you. In practice, nearly all M1s ever used/issued ended up with mixed parts. So a "mixmaster" service grade is probably more "correct" historically than one that has all matching parts.

But if you're going for "as close as you can get to a new, as issued, military M1" then the Correct is your choice. HOWEVER the stock will not be new and may have dings/etc. like any other CMP rifle. If you want to be guaranteed a pristine-LOOKING M1, and historical parts aren't important, get the Special.

But for the price of one of those you can get a good service grade and a lot of ammo.

Depth Afield · January 30th, 2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Devil

I am finally plunging into the M1 Garand world and was looking for one of Springfield Armory Inc.'s new rifles they released a few years ago. A quick check of their website revealed they were no longer listed as being offered.

Can anyone tell me what happened to them???

Thanks,
--Brian

1. You only need one question mark per sentence.

2. Buy a real one from CMP (edit: correct grade)

Jersey Devil · January 30th, 2012, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mercman

Brian,

I think that I brainfarted on the affiliated membership question. I don't think that your commission satisfies the affiliated membership requirement. I submit my WAC or my civilian range membership card when I order. Check out their website or shoot them an email.

I've always gone with the service grades as I'm more into the history aspect of the M1's. If you're looking for a shooter the Special would be the way to go and if you want the history the Correct Grade would be your choice............................

Regards, Kurt

Kurt,
Thanks for your correction. I will shoot them an e-mail and see what they say. I am probably going to join an affiliated club as well just so I can learn from others with a similar interest. I will let you know what the CMP says.
Thanks again!

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Originally Posted by Jason0839

Well everyone already beat me to the punch, but yes go CMP. You will have a historic weapon that you will cherish. I have 2 CMP Garands, one is a Korean era CMP special SA, and the other is a post war collector grade. Both are great shooters, again highly recommended to go the CMP route, you will not regret it.

Jason,
Thanks and I agree. There is a certain level of historical significance that I want to add to my collection and an authentic Garand will do it for sure.
How is your Collector Grade? Any photos of it??

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Originally Posted by 1KPerDay

Between those two, if you plan on only getting one garand and not shooting it a lot, I'd get the Correct grade, personally.

But they are pricey. And the advantage over a good Service grade is primarily in the "all matching" parts. Which may or may not matter to you. In practice, nearly all M1s ever used/issued ended up with mixed parts. So a "mixmaster" service grade is probably more "correct" historically than one that has all matching parts.

But if you're going for "as close as you can get to a new, as issued, military M1" then the Correct is your choice. HOWEVER the stock will not be new and may have dings/etc. like any other CMP rifle. If you want to be guaranteed a pristine-LOOKING M1, and historical parts aren't important, get the Special.

But for the price of one of those you can get a good service grade and a lot of ammo.

That spells it out perfectly....now I just have to decide which one I will be most happy with. Man......how do people get just one of these? I can see this turning into a small arsenal of Garands very quickly!!
Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Depth Afield

1. You only need one question mark per sentence.

2. Buy a real one from CMP (edit: correct grade)

LOL.....the number of question marks at the end of my questions signifies how many times I rub my chin when I think of it! Hahahaha....too funny!
I, too, am leaning toward the Correct Grade.
Thanks!

----Brian

1KPerDay · January 30th, 2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Devil

now I just have to decide which one I will be most happy with. Man......how do people get just one of these?

They don't.

Jersey Devil · January 30th, 2012, 03:53 PM

Holy crap!!
That is a killer collection! What type of M1 is the short one? A carbine version?

Jason0839 · January 30th, 2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Devil

Jason,
Thanks and I agree. There is a certain level of historical significance that I want to add to my collection and an authentic Garand will do it for sure.
How is your Collector Grade? Any photos of it??

Ill post some pictures of the Collector grade tomorrow, the great thing about the collector grade is that the parts are all number matching, with original finish, and original wood. As issued. I love mine and it is absolutely gorgeous. It shoots about a 2" group which is not bad at all considering that it is a 57 year old weapon. The down side is it isn’t a gun that was in a war so it isn’t as historically significant as a WWII or Korean era gun of whatever grade.
I lucked out with my SA CMP special which has a Korean era receiver and all assorted parts groups with the new criterion barrel and new wood. So, it still has the historical significance, I like to wonder if it was held in a fellow Marines hands in chosen etc. But that is a crap shoot because I don’t think you can request a SN range, no harm in asking though.

bustedknuckles · January 30th, 2012, 04:49 PM

I got my feild grade sa garand on my birthday last year at the north store my youngest son and my mom were the only two that wanted to go with me (4 kids and wife). my son got to play on decomishioned? tanks and choppers and got to watch some of the matches, we all had a blast. that 4 hr roadtrip made great memories for me and my boy and i'm reminded evey time i handle that m1. i guess i'm sayin it's worth a roadtrip for anyone who wants one, also you could save some $ by finding a diamond in the rough. mine gages 1t 1m for feild grade $495. and shoots the lights out, luv it, not to mention the $ you'd save in shipping ecspecially if you buy ammo.

bd111 · January 30th, 2012, 04:57 PM

OP, repeat after me, Service Grade, Service Grade, Service Grade. It's by far your best bang for the buck; you'll need the $$$ you save for ammo. If you ask for a HRA it's 90+% you'll get USGI wood, if that's what you want. If you order a SA it's highly probable you'll get a 1954 or 1955 rifle in CMP's birch wood. But you'll be pleased either way. If you like the rifle and want more, you'll have plenty of time to order Correct or Collector Grades.

Good luck!

1KPerDay · January 30th, 2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jersey Devil

Holy crap!!
That is a killer collection! What type of M1 is the short one? A carbine version?

It's a "Tanker". Basically a commercially built replica of the T-26 prototype (jungle garand) that was never put into production. Mine was built on a WWII springfield receiver (and barrel) by Federal Ordnance.

Don't let anyone sell you one telling you it's a "gen-yoo-wine GI Tanker!!"

Also while we're on the subject...

http://shuffsparkerizing.com/services/the-mini-g/

Jersey Devil · February 1st, 2012, 06:38 AM

Just as a quick sidenote, I e-mailed the CMP about my LEO credentials and whether or not they qualify me for fulfillment of the club membership. It's only been a day and a half, but I have not heard back from them. I know they're busy, but how long does it take on average for people to get responses from them? Should I call??

There seems to be some confusion with this. Some folks are telling me that my active LEO status is enough and others say not so. Not just here, but on another website, too. Right now that is the only thing keeping me from sending in my packet!!

1KPerDay · February 1st, 2012, 10:21 AM

I've only emailed customer service about a broken part (and I had to send one rifle back for doubling) but they got back to me within a couple of days. Personally I'd send it in... if there's a problem with credentials, they'll contact you.

Or join the Garand Collector's Ass'n for $25 and be done. :) The magazine they send you is worth it alone.

mercman · February 1st, 2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 1KPerDay

I've only emailed customer service about a broken part (and I had to send one rifle back for doubling) but they got back to me within a couple of days. Personally I'd send it in... if there's a problem with credentials, they'll contact you.

Or join the Garand Collector's Ass'n for $25 and be done. :) The magazine they send you is worth it alone.

+1! The GCA is a wealth of information.