M14 Forum

Earthquake · November 15th, 2011, 09:42 PM

I bought a Stevens 311 SxS, but I could never hit any clays with it so I bushwhacked it of to 19" on the barrels and put a recoil pad on it. I can blast clays with a Over Under all day long. The terms for the angles on the barrels is "Regulated" most to 40 yds, I dont think .410's are though.

Casey

casebro · November 16th, 2011, 06:05 AM

Maybe I ought to dig out the old 16 twin trigger and give it a try. Couldn't hurt my score at the trap range, may hurt my shoulder more than the Auto though.

I don't seem to have a master eye. Maybe one eye down each barrel will help? ;^)

So far a s sights and vented ribs go, I hit a lot of doubles with my Win Model 25 pump- no ribs, no beads. I didn't even realize it when the beads fell off. I just point the piece of pipe and the clay turns to powder. Sometimes. ;^)

And so far as speed goes, that old pump has a trigger system like the M14 disconnector- it will fire if the trigger is held down and the slide rammed forward. I scared myself the other day when I swapped from the auto. It was so fast I though it had doubled on me. We load two at the trap range, in case of a miss. But when I hit one I try to shoot the big piece- if there is one.

I've got a Savage model um 28 pump that won't work so fast. Seems that pulling the trigger while pulling back on the slide won't release the slide. Needs to have the pressure relaxed before the slide release drops. Then no disconnector- hammer will follow the bolt forward. Not near as much fun as the old Winny.

Sweets · November 16th, 2011, 09:47 AM

Personally I favour S/S, so that's what I own and use. My excuse is that I believe it's easier to both point a S/S and to work out the lead on a flying bird if I have the wide flat plane of the barrels to look over- and the last part is certainly true but is of course based on experience actually using a S/S. The other and earlier factor is that I'm regionally subject to British influences and they are S/S all the way. Thirdly, I guess I like to be different and amongst my scruffier peers a S/S makes me unusual- mind you an O/U would as well, they're more often the usual pump or semi-auto crowd.

I'd give a lot for a twin trigger gun over a single-selective trigger, but back in the day couldn't find an older gun for anything less that a collector's price. Now if I lived in the US, Orvis custom guns would get some business from me, or would have.

Two edits: per an earlier post, I do like the wider grip a S/S offers, but then again I have big hands. Try to buy me gloves that fit and you'll find out what I mean. Also, I have a suspicion that people who started out shooting a rifle will tend to favour an O/U while people who started with a S/S tend to stick with that barrel format, in shotguns at least.

casebro · November 28th, 2011, 06:23 AM

I dragged the old Stevens/Ranger sxs 16 out to the trap range yesterday. Both barrels are improved cylinder, by caliper. Two triggers and a safety that automatically sets itself will take some getting used to. But compared to my pump or auto, I don't see any disadvantage. In fact I kind of like the wide flat sight plane as mentioned above. I wonder if that difference would account for the favor in skeet, where the birds fly crosswise more than in trap where the birds fly more elevation wise?

My gun is # X80xxx, I don't know the age, but the striker springs are weak. Left side had a couple FTF light hits, and right side doesn't sound any harder hitting when dry fired. Time for a couple springs. Numrich seems to list most of the parts.

I'm going to save my hulls and look for a loader, 16s sell at a premium.

Sweets · November 28th, 2011, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by casebro

I dragged the old Stevens/Ranger sxs 16 out to the trap range yesterday. Both barrels are improved cylinder, by caliper. Two triggers and a safety that automatically sets itself will take some getting used to. But compared to my pump or auto, I don't see any disadvantage. In fact I kind of like the wide flat sight plane as mentioned above. I wonder if that difference would account for the favor in skeet, where the birds fly crosswise more than in trap where the birds fly more elevation wise?

My gun is # X80xxx, I don't know the age, but the striker springs are weak. Left side had a couple FTF light hits, and right side doesn't sound any harder hitting when dry fired. Time for a couple springs. Numrich seems to list most of the parts.

I'm going to save my hulls and look for a loader, 16s sell at a premium.

One advantage to 16s is that if you have a collectable model they SELL for a premium price as well. My dad had one, but when it came time to buy a gun for myself, I went with 12 because of the cheaper ammo- but I'll be sorry when I'm old and grey... I mean, older and greyer.

BrokenVet · November 28th, 2011, 03:55 PM

For about 20 years a hunted with Browning Side by Side (BSS) and for many years I missed 75% of my target. In my opinion shotgun needs to be fitted to the person to obtain the best possible results.

Since my BSS was not fitted to me I didn't know it at the time that I was focusing on the left barrel when shooting and not the middle rib thus missing my target.

Here is a link to the shotgun world talking about your very question.

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...p?f=2&t=274738