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Old December 1st, 2013, 09:36 AM   #1
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Questions about a USMC marked High Standard 18-7

I ran across and interesting shotgun this weekend that I'm considering buying after a bit more research. It's a High Standard Riot 18-7 RS that's in really great condition. Overall I'd say 90+% blue and some fantastic walnut. The kicker for me is that it's stamped on one side of the receiver with "USMC" and the other side "US Property...US Marine Corp" There is NO serial number on the shotgun (unless it's under the wood somewhere) that I can find. There was also some sort of auction or sales tag attached indicating that it came from Camp Pendelton around 1991. I remember High Standard making shotguns...but I don't recall ever seeing one quite like this.

Any thoughts, info or other input regarding these shotguns' use by the Marines would be greatly appreciated guys?

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Old January 17th, 2014, 06:49 PM   #2
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I heard a long time ago to be weary of any USMC marked firearms.
With very few exceptions, they just did not do it.
also, there should be a s/n visable somewere.

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Old January 18th, 2014, 10:13 AM   #3
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I was on active duty at Camp Pendleton in 1991. Let me just say this about that

There was a DRMO (Defense Reutilization and Marketing Office) site at Pendleton. In those days DRMO acted as sort of the junkyard and/or pawn shop for military bases. Property that was worn out, broken, outdated and being dropped from the system, excess, etc. would be transferred to DRMO. Then DRMO would hold auctions open to the public, where people could bid on the property. However, the property whatever it might be, a pallet load of worn out ALICE packs, broken radios, scrap pipe, whatever, had to be on a list as approved for release to the public.

Functional weapons were NOT releasable to the public and would not have been auctioned off to the public. The USMC would have sent an old shotgun probably to one of the two USMC logistics depots at Barstow or Albany for disposition. More than likely from there they would have been put in long term storage, transferred to the Army for storage, or destroyed.

AFAIK the only mil/gov't agency with the authority to transfer a firearm direct to the public is CMP.

I'd be leery of those markings unless you can find documented proof that it's legit, which I don't think you're going to find.

Something else you might try is sending a PM to Gus Fisher, he was a USMC armorer and I believe also at Pendleton around that time so he would probably know exactly what the USMC would have done with an old shotgun being dropped from the system. HTH

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Old January 18th, 2014, 12:21 PM   #4
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During my enlistment none of our weapons were marked USMC. The only issue weapons I saw with other than standard military proofs were the S&W Victory models carried by the pilots and they were stamped US NAVY on the receiver bridge. It was pretty much the same with 782 gear with the exception of shelter halves and matching brownside/greenside helmet covers, which were distinctly Marine Corps. Items of personal gear such as utilities, boots and uniforms were also distinctly Marine Corps.

A few years ago a clown in Montana sold me a "genuine" USMC carbine sling which he claimed to have bought at Pendleton which turned out to be a fake. I have seen many bogus USMC marked weapons at shows.

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782 gear and shelter about bringing a guy back....

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Old May 23rd, 2014, 10:39 AM   #6
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I know this is a necro post but just for informational purpose many pre 1968 high standard shotguns had no serial number. The 18-7 version of the K-120 is an awesome shotgun too, the mossberg 500 is partly based on the high standard action and the Rock Island A5 basically IS a High Standard pump gun as Armscor made the High Standard guns in the Philipines from about the mid 1970s to their discontinuation.

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Well now this has got me thinking. I'll have to go home and look at mine. I'm sure there are NO USMC markings nor any PD markings on it as well. The lettering is all in an aged yellow at this point. Only wear on it is near the muzzle where it sure looked like it rode in a rack.

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