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Any body out there have a High Standard model 10? I have one that used to belong to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police department, I inherited it when my brother passed away a few years ago. It has not been fired in awhile, I have thought about taking it out and put a few rounds through it but I think they are starting to be worth something now and would not want to break any parts, mine is a model 10B with the screw on flashlight [which I do not have] somebody made a mag tube extension for them but I cant find one.
Post up some pictures if you have one.
The 10B is the most obnoxious, hard kicking, uncomfortable shotgun I've ever fired. Our department had two of them and for a using shotgun I would't give 5 cents for either one. Now if you've got someone who is a collector it may be a different story. Keep it for sentimental reasons or sell it and get an 870 or 590A1 to actually use. Either one is a much better gun to actually shoot.
I've had one for years. Done a few modifications. Halo sight and laser. The only time that I ever had issues was when I lubed it. If I clean it with WD40 and blow it dry with air I can shoot a couple hundred rounds without a peep. I find it Ideal for camping up on the rim where whe have wolf, bear and mountain lion. I've run #4, 6. buckshot and slugs. I think that it's tops for things that go bump in the night
Does any body know if anybody makes a mag tube extension for them? I seem to recall seeing one a few years back. I have a spare mag tube cap and a couple of Choate mag tubes floating around and have thought about tring to make one.
I may be late to the party but I think I have something to add.
I have owned an HS-10B for years and like others have said, they need to be run dry with high brass ammo. Mine likes the Sellier and Bellot 12 pellet OO buck shot loads. I have also run S&B's #4 load that has something like 41 pellets. I find the recoil to be perfectly manageable and even fun. On a side note, if you google bullpup shotgun hs-10b you will see me firing it at my club's range. It will fire and cycle one handed, although the recoil makes the muzzle rise considerably and it takes a while to bring it back down on target. It does not hurt my hand when firing one handed. Why do such a thing? What if you are knocked to the ground or injured? It will reliably fire one handed. At least mine does. I modified mine with a picatinny rail as well and currently use a light laser combo on it with a pressure switch.
As for the extended magazine tube... You have to make it. There was a guy who posted a pretty good set of instructions on Shotgunworld.com a while back. I have toyed with the idea for many years. I am not rich however so I started experimenting with a modification that I can do without a welder or a machine shop. If I have a few hundred bucks lying around in the future I may have a gunsmith weld two HS-10B magazine tubes together for me and do it right. Until then, I used a steel Remington 870 2 shot mag extension, a Dremel tool, and as I write this, some epoxy weld and electrical tape. Yes, it sounds like a horror story, but it is actually designed NOT to alter the stock gun. I will let you know how it goes after test firing it again. I actually test fired it with just a barrel clamp holding it on. It did work but recoil and spring pressure pushed the magazine extension out past the muzzle with each shot. Its kind of funny that it still worked this way. Here is a pic before and after the modification to the barrel clamp/magazine tube extension area.
Here is the vid of my first attempt. Hopefully the second attempt will be more successful. I think it should work but it is kind of jury rigged and would not take a lot of abuse if dropped, bounced around a Humvee etc... :)
Kind of worked until the epoxy weld broke. Looks like I will have to find a metal tube to fit over the extension and brace from the muzzle of the barrel to the back of the extension. I still think it can work without altering the stock gun.
here's some thing that might interest you, did you know a Mossberg mag tube will fit in the receiver? here is a 8 shot tube screwed in.
top tube is the Mossberg, [little dusty, they have been in a box for years]
all that need to be done is to trim a little off in front of the threads but it is .030" smaller in diameter. the gas piston floats around and it is sloppy in the gas cylinder on the barrel so they would need to be sleeved down or the gas piston jams up. It might be easier to TIG two HS mag tubes together, I have a spare tube. I wonder how big a MB 590 mag tube is, if they were a little heavier then a 500 it might not be hard to cut one down and make a clamp that attaches to the front sight. How about making a "Door Breaching" device to replace the front sight?
I thought about a muzzlebrake or breacher like you said. Only thing preventing me from doing it right is money and access to machine shop or welder. I also bought a spare tube. This project is purely to see if I can fabricate a reliablesystem without altering the stock gun. It will work but it is a bit ugly. I will continue to play with the idea. Mine is also more of a range toy as if the need arose, I would grab my 870.
That's all mine is too [a range toy] I have a 870 and a 11-87, when I get it figured out I will post it. I have another barrel some where in the garage with thrashed front sight threads that I may make some thing out of, how about paying the tax and make a short barreled shotgun [it would finish out to a 12 1/2" barrel]
That would be evil looking.
I would wonder about how lopping off the barrel would affect the gas pressure to cycle the action? It would look cool though. I am kind of surpride that no company has revived the idea for executive protection details. Its perfect for vehicle crews. 7 rounds of buck or slug with a full 18 inch barrel.
I am also doing this project for a friend who is paralyzed from the chest down. He is going to get an hs10b but wants the two more shots. He cannot really use a regular shotgun with his disability. If you Google HS 10B and manual, You can find a link to a post on shotgun world. It has a bunch of good pictures on the gas systems with measurements. It's the primary reason why we have to weld two old tubes together. I have thought about threading a regular magazine extension on the end of the stock magazine tube. Unfortunately, I think the interior threads for the endcap would weaken that part of the tube too much.
At 6'5" and 330+ I dont think I'm a tunnel rat!
Here's some thing else I found, the threads on the HS mag tube that screw into the receiver are very close to those of a Rem mag tube extension...
They fit together pretty good, so if you were to cut of a 1/2" piece of the HS tube and weld it on the tube from the gun. It might even be easier to sleeve it and silver solder it
That is interesting because I had thought about welding the tube and threading it for an extension so I could put an XRail on it. Then you would have a 12+1 capacity. Stupidly heavy but its just for zombies. What kind of ammo do you use in yours? I use Sellier and Bellot 12 pellet OO buck and 41 pellet #4 buckshot loads. 100 percent reliable so far.
I may try another shot at the slip on extension this weekend.
On my gas piston where in the picture it points to the "Float bleed ports"
mine were cut so deep it cut through to the inside so there is a 3 sided piece of metal. and they are bent up a little.
I have not put any rounds through mine since my brother and I took it out 15 years ago but I seem to remember it would shoot just about any OO buck that was avialable then. When I pulled it apart yesterday it was well greased so I wiped it down best I could, I think I will take it out and run a few boxes of OO buck through it.