M14 Forum


High Standard Model 10B, any body have one?

This is a discussion on High Standard Model 10B, any body have one? within the Shotguns forums, part of the Gun Forum category; Any body out there have a High Standard model 10? I have one that used to belong to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police department, I ...


Go Back   M14 Forum > Gun Forum > Shotguns

Reply
 
LinkBack Moderator Tools Display Modes

Old January 29th, 2012, 02:36 PM   #1
Lifer
 
Earthquake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3,271
High Standard Model 10B, any body have one?

Any body out there have a High Standard model 10? I have one that used to belong to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police department, I inherited it when my brother passed away a few years ago. It has not been fired in awhile, I have thought about taking it out and put a few rounds through it but I think they are starting to be worth something now and would not want to break any parts, mine is a model 10B with the screw on flashlight [which I do not have] somebody made a mag tube extension for them but I cant find one.
Post up some pictures if you have one.

Casey
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IMGP0251.jpg (11.3 KB, 44 views)

Earthquake is offline  
Remove Ads
Old January 29th, 2012, 03:04 PM   #2
Lifer
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 2,357
The 10B is the most obnoxious, hard kicking, uncomfortable shotgun I've ever fired. Our department had two of them and for a using shotgun I would't give 5 cents for either one. Now if you've got someone who is a collector it may be a different story. Keep it for sentimental reasons or sell it and get an 870 or 590A1 to actually use. Either one is a much better gun to actually shoot.

Wayne M is offline  
Old January 30th, 2012, 11:50 AM   #3
Lifer
 
Earthquake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3,271
Wayne M
They dont kick any harder then a Winchester M94 saddle ring carbine, I hate shooting them. I have 3 870's and a Scattergun Technologies 11-87 K-9, so the HS 10B is a safe queen.

Casey

Earthquake is offline  
Old March 17th, 2012, 12:58 PM   #4
Newbie
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: kentucky
Posts: 7
I have 2 model b's and 1 model a they work great as long as you use high brass

bullpup45 is offline  
Old June 28th, 2012, 11:04 PM   #5
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: phx az
Posts: 2
Model 10B

I've had one for years. Done a few modifications. Halo sight and laser. The only time that I ever had issues was when I lubed it. If I clean it with WD40 and blow it dry with air I can shoot a couple hundred rounds without a peep. I find it Ideal for camping up on the rim where whe have wolf, bear and mountain lion. I've run #4, 6. buckshot and slugs. I think that it's tops for things that go bump in the night

Bruce phoenix is offline  
Old June 29th, 2012, 11:32 AM   #6
Lifer
 
Earthquake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3,271
Does any body know if anybody makes a mag tube extension for them? I seem to recall seeing one a few years back. I have a spare mag tube cap and a couple of Choate mag tubes floating around and have thought about tring to make one.

Casey

Earthquake is offline  
Old October 21st, 2012, 09:43 PM   #7
Rifleman
 
jordanvraptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 40
I may be late to the party but I think I have something to add.

I have owned an HS-10B for years and like others have said, they need to be run dry with high brass ammo. Mine likes the Sellier and Bellot 12 pellet OO buck shot loads. I have also run S&B's #4 load that has something like 41 pellets. I find the recoil to be perfectly manageable and even fun. On a side note, if you google bullpup shotgun hs-10b you will see me firing it at my club's range. It will fire and cycle one handed, although the recoil makes the muzzle rise considerably and it takes a while to bring it back down on target. It does not hurt my hand when firing one handed. Why do such a thing? What if you are knocked to the ground or injured? It will reliably fire one handed. At least mine does. I modified mine with a picatinny rail as well and currently use a light laser combo on it with a pressure switch.

As for the extended magazine tube... You have to make it. There was a guy who posted a pretty good set of instructions on Shotgunworld.com a while back. I have toyed with the idea for many years. I am not rich however so I started experimenting with a modification that I can do without a welder or a machine shop. If I have a few hundred bucks lying around in the future I may have a gunsmith weld two HS-10B magazine tubes together for me and do it right. Until then, I used a steel Remington 870 2 shot mag extension, a Dremel tool, and as I write this, some epoxy weld and electrical tape. Yes, it sounds like a horror story, but it is actually designed NOT to alter the stock gun. I will let you know how it goes after test firing it again. I actually test fired it with just a barrel clamp holding it on. It did work but recoil and spring pressure pushed the magazine extension out past the muzzle with each shot. Its kind of funny that it still worked this way. Here is a pic before and after the modification to the barrel clamp/magazine tube extension area.





Here is the vid of my first attempt. Hopefully the second attempt will be more successful. I think it should work but it is kind of jury rigged and would not take a lot of abuse if dropped, bounced around a Humvee etc... :)



Last edited by jordanvraptor; October 21st, 2012 at 10:03 PM.
jordanvraptor is offline  
Old October 23rd, 2012, 03:16 PM   #8
Rifleman
 
jordanvraptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 40
Kind of worked until the epoxy weld broke. Looks like I will have to find a metal tube to fit over the extension and brace from the muzzle of the barrel to the back of the extension. I still think it can work without altering the stock gun.


http://youtu.be/jWzealw2rUU?hd=1

jordanvraptor is offline  
Old October 23rd, 2012, 11:09 PM   #9
Lifer
 
Earthquake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3,271
jordanvraptor
here's some thing that might interest you, did you know a Mossberg mag tube will fit in the receiver? here is a 8 shot tube screwed in.


top tube is the Mossberg, [little dusty, they have been in a box for years]
all that need to be done is to trim a little off in front of the threads but it is .030" smaller in diameter. the gas piston floats around and it is sloppy in the gas cylinder on the barrel so they would need to be sleeved down or the gas piston jams up. It might be easier to TIG two HS mag tubes together, I have a spare tube. I wonder how big a MB 590 mag tube is, if they were a little heavier then a 500 it might not be hard to cut one down and make a clamp that attaches to the front sight. How about making a "Door Breaching" device to replace the front sight?

Casey

Earthquake is offline  
Old October 24th, 2012, 01:13 AM   #10
Rifleman
 
jordanvraptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 40
I thought about a muzzlebrake or breacher like you said. Only thing preventing me from doing it right is money and access to machine shop or welder. I also bought a spare tube. This project is purely to see if I can fabricate a reliablesystem without altering the stock gun. It will work but it is a bit ugly. I will continue to play with the idea. Mine is also more of a range toy as if the need arose, I would grab my 870.

jordanvraptor is offline  
Old October 24th, 2012, 07:02 AM   #11
Lifer
 
Earthquake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3,271
Jordan
That's all mine is too [a range toy] I have a 870 and a 11-87, when I get it figured out I will post it. I have another barrel some where in the garage with thrashed front sight threads that I may make some thing out of, how about paying the tax and make a short barreled shotgun [it would finish out to a 12 1/2" barrel]
That would be evil looking.

Casey

Earthquake is offline  
Old October 24th, 2012, 11:08 AM   #12
Rifleman
 
jordanvraptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 40
A bullpup SBS... :) Are you a tunnel rat? :)

I would wonder about how lopping off the barrel would affect the gas pressure to cycle the action? It would look cool though. I am kind of surpride that no company has revived the idea for executive protection details. Its perfect for vehicle crews. 7 rounds of buck or slug with a full 18 inch barrel.

I am also doing this project for a friend who is paralyzed from the chest down. He is going to get an hs10b but wants the two more shots. He cannot really use a regular shotgun with his disability. If you Google HS 10B and manual, You can find a link to a post on shotgun world. It has a bunch of good pictures on the gas systems with measurements. It's the primary reason why we have to weld two old tubes together. I have thought about threading a regular magazine extension on the end of the stock magazine tube. Unfortunately, I think the interior threads for the endcap would weaken that part of the tube too much.

jordanvraptor is offline  
Old October 24th, 2012, 01:53 PM   #13
Lifer
 
Earthquake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3,271
Jordan
At 6'5" and 330+ I dont think I'm a tunnel rat!
Here's some thing else I found, the threads on the HS mag tube that screw into the receiver are very close to those of a Rem mag tube extension...


They fit together pretty good, so if you were to cut of a 1/2" piece of the HS tube and weld it on the tube from the gun. It might even be easier to sleeve it and silver solder it

Casey

Earthquake is offline  
Old October 25th, 2012, 01:09 AM   #14
Rifleman
 
jordanvraptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 40
That is interesting because I had thought about welding the tube and threading it for an extension so I could put an XRail on it. Then you would have a 12+1 capacity. Stupidly heavy but its just for zombies. What kind of ammo do you use in yours? I use Sellier and Bellot 12 pellet OO buck and 41 pellet #4 buckshot loads. 100 percent reliable so far.



I may try another shot at the slip on extension this weekend.

Here is the thread I saw on shotgunworld. http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/view...p?f=7&t=279771


jordanvraptor is offline  
Old October 25th, 2012, 11:21 PM   #15
Lifer
 
Earthquake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posts: 3,271
Quote:
On my gas piston where in the picture it points to the "Float bleed ports"
mine were cut so deep it cut through to the inside so there is a 3 sided piece of metal. and they are bent up a little.

I have not put any rounds through mine since my brother and I took it out 15 years ago but I seem to remember it would shoot just about any OO buck that was avialable then. When I pulled it apart yesterday it was well greased so I wiped it down best I could, I think I will take it out and run a few boxes of OO buck through it.

Casey

Earthquake is offline  
Reply

  M14 Forum > Gun Forum > Shotguns



Search tags for this page
hi standard model 10
,

high standard 10b

,
high standard 10b for sale
,

high standard 10b shotgun

,
high standard 10b shotgun for sale
,
high standard choate
,

high standard model 10

,

high standard model 10 for sale

,
high standard model 10a for sale
,

high standard model 10b

,

high standard model 10b for sale

,
high standard model 10b shotgun
Click on a term to search for related topics.

Moderator Tools
Display Modes


Similar M14 Forum Discussions
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
REmington & Winchester Rebates 411man Ammunition 0 July 9th, 2007 07:29 PM
Rate a High Standard Lower assy sgt_mike M16 AR15 0 March 24th, 2007 01:49 AM
Dad owns a Springfield Model 1898 that shoots 4 feet high and 4 feet left @ 100 yards philjimpot Steel and Wood 11 December 5th, 2006 08:38 AM
High Standard and Sears & Roebuck shotguns dlefdal Shotguns 3 November 14th, 2006 04:32 PM



Top Gun Sites Top Sites List