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Old December 27th, 2011, 03:49 PM   #1
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ithaca 37

I have a ithaca 37 trench gun .if its real or fake I have no idea my question is the bayonet attachment on the end moves ,and all the screws are tight ,I was wondering if the military ever silver soldered these things on so they would stay tight

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Old December 27th, 2011, 04:17 PM   #2
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Ithica is still in business give them a call. I got parts for mine from them so they may be available if you need them. What year is it? My three are early 60's

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Old December 27th, 2011, 05:24 PM   #3
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the serial number is in the 56000 range the bayonet lug is on and won't fall of but it moves a little side to side

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Old December 27th, 2011, 05:36 PM   #4
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It's probably a converted trench gun. The trench gun barrels were not tapered at the end. All other barrels including riot barrels were.

So if you put a heat shield on a non-trench gun barrel it will not be tight enough because of the taper.

To get it to work fine, you will probably have to put a shim on the topside of the barrel under the bayonet lug.

Most people use shims of brass or aluminum to shim them. They don't have to be very thick and you just have to mess with it to find the right size.

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Old December 27th, 2011, 07:13 PM   #5
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just tried some shims problem solved ,thanks

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Old December 28th, 2011, 02:56 AM   #6
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The 56000 serial number range denotes a 1942 built gun (according to Snyder's book 1942 = SN 50901 to 63000). The serial number appears to be a bit early for a "real" WWII Ithaca M37 Trench Gun. According to Canfield's book the first quantity shipment of M37 Trench Guns was 19 June 1942 of 100 guns SN range from 57800 to 57995 indicated by the invoice. If it is one of the few (only 1422 WWII M37 trenchies were ever built) "real" WWII Ithaca Model 37 Trench Guns its worth well into five figures. The M37 and the Remington Model 10 Trench Gun are reportedly the pinnacle of a collectors collection. The guy I got my 1969 vintage M37 trenchie from was selling it (and a lot of other awesome shotguns) to fund the one WWII M37 Trench Gun he had found. Never told me what it cost him, but it looked like he was selling about $12,000 worth of trenchie/riot goodness.

So, there is a slight chance you have one of only a handful of "real" WWII Ithaca M37 Trench Guns, but according to the little bits of info I've got, it sounds like it's a bit too early. Be that as it may, the 1422 guns all had receivers devoid of the classic Ithaca hunting scene rollmarked on the sides of the receiver and those guns had a blue finish (not Parkerized). The buttstock was smooth and the forend was of the "rigtail" variety.

Now I've got to disagree with cplnorton here a bit. Before I bought my '69 trenchie I was working on building up a clone. As it is now it is going together on a 1940 vintage M37. The barrel has been cut to the proper 20-inches and crowned and neither my reproduction East Taylor bayonet mount/heat shield nor my real set up fit loosely on the cut-down 1940 vintage barrel, rather both are extremely tight.

Do you have any pics of your shotgun you can share? What is the choke denoted on the barrel? Before you go shimming or soldering anything it might be good to look into it a bit more.

...and because I like to post pics... my 1940 vintage M37 Trench Gun project.


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Old December 28th, 2011, 03:52 PM   #7
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I think maybe someone put the wrong heatsheild on the gun ,I think the heat shield might be of a winchester. Looking from the back of the gun ,the left side of the reciever has a U.S. stamp and above that is a P on the reciever and a P on the barrel.maybe I need to find a different heat shield.

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Old December 28th, 2011, 05:30 PM   #8
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I don't own one that cool, but I have 37's in 12 and 20 ga., as well as M12's, a 1200, and several 870's. Bar none, the 37's are my favorites as "working-man's" pump guns. I never owned a Remington 17 but I'm told it's the patent upon which the slick-loading, slick shucking 37 is based.

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I have a 1940 M37 in need of a few parts and refinishing. Any recommendations for parts, repair or refinishing? I am cutting the barrel down to either 18" or 20", want a grey park finish, ringtail forend and a smooth, no checkering butt stock. I'm trying to build a riot gun of late 60s early 70s...

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I have several Ithaca 37s and they are some of the finest pump shotguns ever made by anybody.

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Old December 29th, 2011, 04:33 PM   #11
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I had a Model 37, featherweight, 2-3/4", full choke, no recoil pad. Got it for xmas on my 12th birthday. This thing beat the heck out of me until I got a little bigger. But I sure could bring down ducks and geese from a long ways out!

Wish I still had it.

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Old December 30th, 2011, 03:09 AM   #12
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I had a Model 37, featherweight, 2-3/4", full choke, no recoil pad. Got it for xmas on my 12th birthday. This thing beat the heck out of me until I got a little bigger. But I sure could bring down ducks and geese from a long ways out!

Wish I still had it.
Hah,hah! Me, too! My dad bought me a used M37 from one of his buddies the summer between 6th and 7th grade and I carried it the first time that fall (1970) in ND hunting jack rabbits, cotton tails, ring necks, sharptail grouse and hungarian partridge - and squirrels - the only thing I killed that first year. It's a kicker alright. But like you I got bigger and I got to hunt small game in several states till I grew up and dad retired from the Air Force. i still have it. Works as well now as it did then.

Another John Browning design that works as well no as it did almost 100 years ago.

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They never skips a beat. These are from 63 and 64

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