M14 Forum

Big Gulp

I just got it yesterday!!!
I sighted in the scope today and broke it in.
This is my second .22. I sold my first .22 back in 2000 and I have never wanted one until now. It was mostly an economic factor but it was also something that my wife would shoot. I wanted something I could take to a match and the desert.
what would you do to make it better?















I am loving the cheap ammo!!!

LoB

Schweet! I am a big Ruger 10-22 fan, I own two carbines set up as Liberty Training Rifles.

The biggest improvement I made was to instal a Volquartsen hammer kit. Really smoothed and lightened the factory 7lb crunchy trigger. There are a TON of good quality 10-22 aftermarket items available.

I know guys around hear that could have bought a NM M1A with what they sunk into their 10-22!! NTTAWWT . .

I notice you have Rem ammo there. At Appleseed events I go through 400-600 rounds in a weekend. I have found the Rem to be unreliable to the point that at my very first Appleseed I could not get through one Appleseed 40 round course of fire without a FTF or FTE. Many other Appleseeders around here spoke of similar problems and recommended CCI Blazer. . Most appleseeders around these parts swear by CCI Blazer. So do I . . 4 bricks this summer with not one FTF or FTE.

f1fanatic

Very nice rifle. I love the 10/22 and I also do a lot of Appleseed shoots. And I would have the same comments about the Remington Ammo. Unreliable.
As far as what you can do to the rifle to make it your own? Well, that's going to be the beauty of this one because there are so many possibilities. I like a tactical stock, but hey, that's just me. That laminate you have there is very nice too.
One thing about these rifles is that it's very easy to do custom work on this rifle to make it more accurate without spending a ton of money. Just need a drill(drill press is better, easier) and a Dremel. I recommend buying an E book called "Performance Enhancements for the Ruger 10/22." by Roger Seher. You can find it on ebay for about $20. About 70 pages chalked full of projects for you to choose from. Polishing bits and pieces, trigger work, bolt work, stock work, take down screw trimming, ejector work. I have achieved a lot of mileage out of it. And my rifle is very accurate without much money at all.
The only other thing I would suggest is a set of Tech Sights.
Enjoy that great rifle.

XUSNORDIE

Check out Clark 1022 trigger kits.....I love mine. I have a "Bullseye" rifle built with all Clark parts (except receiver and scope of course).

Jet

Very timely post here. I am planning on buying the exact rifle for my wife as a Christmas present and had similar questions.

perazziboy

The best, most important upgrade for this rifle is a trigger job. Either have the current one worked on or

buy the Volquarten (one option about $40 and the other $250). Once the trigger is done it is GTG. The rest

is just personal preference. Have fun!

Big Gulp

It has a 2 stage target trigger in it that feels pretty good.

I live in Utah and I don't think there are Appleseed events here. I would like to go to a match eventually but I tend to avoid any competition with guns. I am a soldier and a LEO, I shoot for work and for fun. I can't handle shooting with most people at the range, I think I would loose my mind shooting against civilians that think they are secret squirrel sniper ninja's...
I can see myself going to a .22 LR match though. Hopefully there would be a lot less Rambo's and more good old boys that could actually teach me something.

As far as the ammo, thanks for the feedback. I got the Remington stuff cause it was cheap and I did notice that it is inconsistent, it will be for plunking only. I got some Federal ammo that the guy at the gun shop suggested.It is very accurate.

XUSNORDIE

Check out rimfirecentral.com for a ton of cool mods.....also, you can participate in various online "matches" for fun (and some are very humbling to say the least) Good group of folks there as well.

Xsail

BG, there are none scheduled in Utah right now but there will be some next spring for sure. Sounds like you've got the wrong impression of Appleseed, it's not a competition, other than with yourself to improve. Little competitions break out between participants however. If you are like 99% of the soldiers and LEO's, what you won't like about it is Joe or Jane the plumber giving you a run for your money. Do some searches on this site and others for others Appleseed experiences and visit their site at: http://appleseedinfo.org/

Nice rifle and hope you have lots of fun with it. What toys and stuff you do to it will depend on what you want it to do. Set up as is, it wouldn't do well at a seed....O.L.

LoB

Hmmm. Being a civilian I think I might resemble that remark . . nyuk nyuk nyuk

The last Appleseed I was at I had two crusty old former marines to the left of me and a LEO to the right, all shooting target 10-22s with big ass scopes. We all had fun and learned a lot! I had high score that weekend for iron sights with my 10-22 carbine. A 15 year old kid beat me by 2 points with a scoped target 10-22. He got 246/250.

It is all about understanding and correctly applying the fundamentals. Not the rifle. Some people try to make the Appleseeds into an equipment race but that dog don't hunt.

Had a NY State Trooper stop by my local range on Sunday, he was on duty and in uniform. He and I were the only ones there. He says is a certified sniper on some $5000 Remington bolt gun the troopers use here in the Peoples Socialist Republik of NY.

I let him put some rounds into the 100 yard Highpower target with my NM M1A. iron sights,. . . from the bench. His groups were 4-5" or so. Then I showed him how good the rifle shoots from the prone position with several 1.5-3" groups. He was impressed, and humbled. We are shooting together again on Sunday.

Big Gulp . . get thee to an Appleseed. I thought I could shoot . . took me three Appleseeds to earn my Riflemans Patch . . have to score 210/250. Not as easy as it looks.

XUSNORDIE

Big Gulp . . get thee to an Appleseed. I thought I could shoot . . took me three Appleseeds to earn my Riflemans Patch . . have to score 210/250. Not as easy as it looks.
From what I have read.....Appleseed looks nothing more than the typical 25M reduced qual course we taught in the Navy. When in a pinch, we could fam fire or conduct watchstander quals...even while afloat. The DM course at Pendelton also had a 75' reduced course to simulate 300yd...

The now disbanded Maryland AR Shooters Site had a similar course for 25M iron and 50M optics. It was called the "Marksman Challenge". Basically a reduced silhouette (300yd), 2MIN to plug 20 rds into it. I still do it for fun with the AR's and various 22's. My wife and kids love it (they all have their own 22's).

KyAggie

What a nice looking 22; you are going to love that thing. I have an older 10/22 that I have messed with a bit and here is my advice: If it ain't broke don't "fix" it.

That being said, for sure I would either do a trigger job on it myself or have it done, install a better mag release (oops just noticed in the pics it looks like it already has a very functional mag release, if it works as good as it looks don't change it), and install a bolt release that allows the bolt to go back forward by just pulling it back and letting go. I would then shoot it a lot and find out what ammo it likes and dislikes. If you have any feeding issues with it, then I would radius the rear bottom of the bolt and shoot it some more. You should be able to find out how to do this at: http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php

It is not hard to do and made a world of difference with some of the ammo I was trying. It will even feed exposed lead ammo flawlessly although these guns have a reputation for feeding problems with that type of 22 ammo. Also, if you want open sights, the Tech sights are great.

ENJOY IT!!

Xsail

As an old squid myself, it's not even close. Yes, it's scaled down but it's the Army qualification prior to WWII. Most who can shoot expert on the current AQT, might score a 160-180 on this with 210 or better earning the expert score. Many scoff at the distance, an MOA is an MOA, doesn't matter if it's 25 or 1000 and if you can't do it with a .22, you can't with anything bigger either.

Here is a good "test", take a 1" square (4MOA) at 25yds/m, shoot 10 shots either prone or sitting (no sand bags, bi-pods, etc) and keep all of them in that square. 40 second time limit. If you can, you'll do well and might be instructor material if you can do it repeatedly, if you can't, you'll at least know what you need to do/practice to do so. The actual AQT will be 10 standing, 2 min. Stage 2, 10 shots, transition from standing to sitting with a mag change, 2 targets(5&5), 55sec. Stage 3, 10 shots, transition standing to prone with a mag change, 3 tgts (3&3&4), 65 sec. Stage 4, start prone/stay prone, 10 shots, 4 tgts (2&2&2&3), 5 min. Those 4 stages represent 100,200,300, and 400 yds. What kills folks is the time monkey and not being smooth/familiar with their rifle.......O.L..

LoB

what Xsail said ^^

Big Gulp

I have never heard of Appleseed before, so no, I don't know what to expect...

I have no problem being out shot by anyone, regardless of they're profession.
I have met a lot of people that are better than me. I will gladly learn from them and have fun at the same time. I am not a very competitive person so I have never shot in any matches.
I did get the opportunity to shoot in a couple competitions in Afghanistan. I joined because running around the range shooting at steel plates that don't shoot back was a good stress relief!
At least half of the two man teams that would compete each month were Army SF and Navy SEAL's. Holy crap they can move and shoot!!! It was fun because everyone was there for the same reason and everyone respected each other. It was great to be humbled by these guys and it was great to be complimented by them too.

I don't like dealing with people that have never been in combat or in a job that required it, that talk and act as if they have. You all know that guy! I don't think I am better than anyone because of what I do or have done. I do however get pissed when "That Guy" starts running his mouth and disrespects every one that has sacrificed their lives so that he can walk around the range in his multicam chest rig and the entire line of Magpul products on his AR 15. And don't forget the drop leg holster for his cool guy tactical pistol so he can practice his transition drills on his old TV and pumpkins! Don't get me started on the amazing conversations I hear every time I go to the gun store!
Don't get me wrong, I have more gear than anyone I know but I use for work and play. I love talking about gun's and gear and I have started my own website where I review all kinds of gear and Man stuff! I think that more people should own guns and gear and become proficient with them. Don't talk an act like an Operator just because you are dressed like one!!! That is a good way to alienate yourself and loose my respect.

Oh yeah, my .22...