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Old November 17th, 2016, 02:17 PM   #16
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I will write and tell them that do not expect my membership renewal if Camp Perry is forsaken. It will take a LOT of members though doing that to make a ripple.
I share your anger, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Now is NOT a good time to be lowering NRA membership numbers. That said, I have to wonder if good things might happen if enough people wrote to the NRA and explained why and how much this crazy move has pi$$ed them off.

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Old November 17th, 2016, 03:05 PM   #17
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I share your anger, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Now is NOT a good time to be lowering NRA membership numbers. That said, I have to wonder if good things might happen if enough people wrote to the NRA and explained why and how much this crazy move has pi$$ed them off.

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Correct. I was talking about barking before biting.

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Old November 17th, 2016, 03:23 PM   #18
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They should compete at BOTH locations
And try to attract more fresh blood

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Old November 17th, 2016, 05:37 PM   #19
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Personally, I think they should build several state of the art facilities around the country (not just Taledega) with one being smack dab in the middle of the country to make it somewhat fair to those in the West. Perhaps near to a city that has an airport (Kansas City perhaps). Also, a way to ship ammo to yourself so that if you are shooting in multiple events, so you don't risk exceeding the Airline's weight limit restriction for loaded ammunition. Driving for 2 days to get to something like the Nationals rather sucks in my opinion.

I recently attended the Creedmoor Cup in Phoenix... and that was a 13 hour drive from Denver (only 1 state over diagonally). If I could hop on a plane for 2 hours and be shooting the next morning, I would be far more likely to make the trek to the Nationals. As it is now, it's pain to get there, it's a pain to find lodging and the NRA and CMP can't put on their big boy pants and work out the schedule together.

The CMP just sent out a newsletter mentioning they're planning on adding new events (long range, match rifle, etc) along with adding a classification system. Perhaps this portends the the beginning of the end for NRA competitions. NRA is sparsely attended at the nationals, although I am not sure why given that most of the local matches around me are NRA sanctioned vs CMP, I can certainly see the advantage of having 1 rule book. If the NRA handles the political side of things and the CMP handles the competitions and promotional aspects of getting more people into shooting sports, I think the community might be better off... though I would like to see a way for folks help determine the leadership of the CMP.

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There has been a lot of talk at my club about the recent rules changes (Scopes) and some guys talking about not going to compete next year. Their vacations are already requested for Perry and some of the HM are just going to sitting back and wait to see what going to happen. I think that the NRA leaving will make thing worse and people are going to choose one or the other and both organization will have decreased shooters for several years to come. The shame of it all is Perry has such a steeped and long history it's going to take many years to get the number of shooters to return.

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Lots of guy's wined and cried when the Nationals were moved from Seagrit too Perry. Personally I think they should move it too some where closer too the center of the country. Ohio is a pretty short hop from almost anywhere on the east side of the country, that cant be said for the guys on the west side of the country..

I'm in favor of slitting the Nationals, you can keep Perry for everyone that want too go but have something somewhere in the west, maybe somewhere in Nevada plenty of open desert out there.

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I do agree with Phil. Alot of people don't like change, but give it time and it may be for the best. Only time will tell and it may be rough for a couple of years till the dust settles

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Old November 18th, 2016, 09:12 AM   #23
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Alot of people don't like change, but give it time and it may be for the best.
I think that's true. I expect that the attendance trend for NRA high power rifle national matches will continue (that is, fewer shooters every year), and in a few years they will finally give up trying to run them. Then they can transfer all the old trophies over to the CMP who can run the matches at Camp Perry, where they should be.

On a practical level, this move complicates the logistics of attending the national matches, especially for people like me who have to travel a long distance just to get there. Now you need two motels. You need to pack up and move in the middle of your shooting vacation. Likely you will not be staying in either location long enough to qualify for weekly rates.

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ATA moved the Grand American and now the NRA is moving from Perry, What's next?

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Old November 18th, 2016, 01:16 PM   #25
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I guess NRA got tired of being pushed around.

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I'm told the military teams will not be able to make it due to conflicting match dates.

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I think that's true. I expect that the attendance trend for NRA high power rifle national matches will continue (that is, fewer shooters every year), and in a few years they will finally give up trying to run them. Then they can transfer all the old trophies over to the CMP who can run the matches at Camp Perry, where they should be.

On a practical level, this move complicates the logistics of attending the national matches, especially for people like me who have to travel a long distance just to get there. Now you need two motels. You need to pack up and move in the middle of your shooting vacation. Likely you will not be staying in either location long enough to qualify for weekly rates.

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With all do respect Tim, no one is saying you have too shoot at both but lets say a National event was help closer too your location. I see that as a logistic plus but if you close too go too the other farther down the road no hard feelings that's also your choice...

Options are nice, is what I'm saying.

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Lots of guy's wined and cried when the Nationals were moved from Seagrit too Perry. Personally I think they should move it too some where closer too the center of the country. Ohio is a pretty short hop from almost anywhere on the east side of the country, that cant be said for the guys on the west side of the country..

I'm in favor of slitting the Nationals, you can keep Perry for everyone that want too go but have something somewhere in the west, maybe somewhere in Nevada plenty of open desert out there.
Maybe make more of a competition out of it. Shoot at Perry for eastern shooters, and have another national out west. Then east meets west in a shootout somewhere in the middle. -Lloyd

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Absolutely terrible decision. WTH is going on between NRA and CMP that they can't share Perry? First they had to move smallbore and now they're divorcing the NRA/CMP matches.

This is an especially concerning as Civil Air Patrol uses Atterbery for their National Search and Rescue Academy during this entire time. I've been there, they use the bulk of the facilities closest to the airfield and small arms ranges as well as have a couple hundred ground pounders running all over the woods on the range area at any given time. Not only does the school have a well established position on post they're going to probably have priority to all facilities as part of the Air Force Total Force concept.

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I enjoy the NRA Whittington Center for shooting a lot.

Is there enough lodging in the area? My understanding is that's been a big reason why they haven't moved them.

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