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Old October 21st, 2011, 08:20 PM   #1
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Appleseed Update

I attended my first Appleseed event today in Kaysville Utah. What a great time! I only signed up for one day so the pressure was on to score a Rifleman patch. I did it!!! Scored a 213. I was shooting a bone stock ar15 with carbine length sights. The gritty factory trigger added to the challenge. The event was well organized. All of us who attended received some high quality instruction. In my opinion it is the best money you will ever spend on training. More importantly you will get some great history lessons about the foundation of this country and the tradition of the American Rifleman.

Met two other forum members while attending the event. Hats off to lbsnake925! He is an instructor and history teacher. He is a fantastic guy who really has a passion for restoring honor and tradition to this country. I also met stickman. He was shooting right next to me the whole match. He shot the course with a beautiful match grade M1A. He shot some amazing groups with that thing.

I encourage everyone to attend an Appleseed and bring a friend or family member. You really do not have any skill or training with a rifle. Just bring an open mind and you will have a great time!

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Old October 21st, 2011, 09:28 PM   #2
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As Primus mentioned, I too attended the Appleseed today along with my girlfriend, and we both had a really good time.

This was my second Appleseed but a first for my girlfriend. She learned a lot and made some good progress on her shooting.

I unfortunately did not qualify for a rifleman patch this time. I did on my first back in 07, but missed it by 4 points and 6 points this time. I am terribly disappointed with myself, but I gave it my best. This event is a very humbling experience even for people who shoot a lot like myself.

I was a little surprised at the number of 10/22 rifles, there was 17 of them there. I was the only person shooting a .30 caliber rifle, my M-14. Shot about 175 rounds today. I am a little sore! My girlfriend, Primus, the shooter to our left and I think Nate, who is a member here shot AR-15 rifles. By the way thanks for the comments on my rifle Primus!

I second what Primus says about the Appleseed project. Even though I have done this before and studied several books and videos on shooting, I learned a different method for looping my sling that worked a little bit better than the way I have been doing for quite awhile. My shooting improved throughout the day and I enjoyed the history lessons they teach and the take back our nation theme that is the center of the Appleseed Project.

The training and instructors were first rate, and very helpful.

If you have the chance to attend an Appleseed shoot I highly recommend it. It is and opportunity that should not be missed.

It was also nice to meet some more forum members too. Nice to meet you Primus, lbsnake, and Nate, sorry Nate forgot your screen name. Hope to see you all again at another shoot sometime.

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Old October 22nd, 2011, 04:30 AM   #3
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The AS I attended in August... the line was entirely 10/22's by the end of the first day. Even though shooting a bigger rifle sounds like the thing to do, I'm glad I learned the drills with the 10/22... it took recoil management out of the equation and allowed me to learn and practice what was being taught. I did shoot my AR the 2nd day for qualification, but the only reason I did well was because of learning and repetition I had done the day before with the 10/22.

Congrats on your Rifleman score, Primus!!!

As an aside, we homeschool our daughter... she is studying the Revolution right now and the videos we are watching (we watch them together... I was a student of Public Education, too, so I need some brushing up!) talk about the exact people and events discussed at the Appleseed!!! It's pretty cool...

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Old October 22nd, 2011, 04:38 AM   #4
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Congratulations to Primus and Stickboy. Both are American Rifleman and part of what makes America great.

In honor or the great men like Cpt Issac Davis, Cpt John Parker, Ranger Robert Munroe, we to must leave the plow on occasion to practice the "trade" of rifleman and teach others that the "trade must be larnt" as so eloquently stated by John Weighton at Brooks Hill to a new Minuteman who was visably impressed with Weighton's coolness and skill under fire.

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Old October 23rd, 2011, 11:45 PM   #5
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I'll echo the congratulations to Primus and Stickboy. We had a great Appleseed event. I think Brian was the other guy shooting an AR, I was shooting my 10/22 LTR. After shooting Rifleman I immediately took an Orange Hat and was busy instructing after that so I didn't get a chance to bust out my M1A. Maybe next time.

Here's the After Action Report:

http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=25847.0

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Old October 24th, 2011, 05:35 AM   #6
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Thumbs up Great A.S. SITREP!!!

Great job to the both of you and hey Stickboy, glad to hear your G/F found it to be a positive event also. Don't sweat the scores, but I know how you feel. Those shots are all gone. Just work harder. Shooting well is a very perishable skill, mebe' look into shooting with a winter small-bore league in your area. Over the last four years being involved with small-bore has really helped me maintain my skills. (I call it winter time powder burning Yoga.) Yes I know small-bore is another, "deep hole" of money expended, but it is something I will always be involved with. You may not want to shell out the bucks I did, but buying what I'm showing in the below picture has been one of the best investments’ in my whole competitive shooting career.

I'll tell you, Appleseed is a great primer not only for civic citizenship, our country's history, Rifle marksmanship, but also to expose folks to service rifle highpower. Just reading about Appleseed caused me to finally get off my butt and get back into the game. Week before last I received my Compass Lake Engineering NM upper. I have all the lower stuff, I just have to get it put together. I can’t wait to attend my next AS shoot. For me I wanted to get involved and be just a plain Orange hat. I figured it was time to ante up and give something back to this country by helping others be able to learn and attain some of the experiences and goals that I have been able to enjoy. Now, I’m going to go over to the Appleseed website and read the after action review of the Kaysville Utah A.S. weekend. In closing, Hey Primus, that is a great score with irons with an AR carbine!!. You can be on my team anytime.!!!

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Old November 6th, 2011, 07:53 AM   #7
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Good stuff and congrats to the new Rifleman! I want to point out to those reading this thread Appleseed is NOT a competition between shooters, it's a competition with yourself to improve. But some cross rivalries do break out and that's good but the worse thing a person can do who wants to get the patch is to put too much pressure on yourself. Relax, work on the fundamentals, and it'll happen. Shooting the "score" is just the beginning of learning to be a competant Rifleman.

As for the .22's and the big guns, yep, I know the urge to do it with a big gun but fundamentals are fundamentals, trigger squeeze is trigger squeeze, an MOA is an MOA. It's not a bad idea to get the fundamentals down with a .22, then break out the big guns if you so desire. The only thing lost is the recoil which you'll quickly learn how to correct for. If you can't shoot the score with a .22, you sure as heck can't with a big rifle, might as well do so with the .22 first and save some $$$ on ammo.

Don't fret if you don't get the patch first time out, the average is 3 AS's with lots of dryfire practice in the living room floor inbetween. Things achived too easily are regarded too lightly! We sure appreciate your efforts! :)...O.L.

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Old November 6th, 2011, 12:00 PM   #8
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Glad to hear y'all had a great time. Sometimes our family gets a chance to instruct at Kaysville. This time we had a shoot in Las Vegas to cover but our daughter, sharpeyedfirechild, was able to support. Sounds like the Self-Reliance Expo really filled the lines.

For any of the women who want to be a part of a ladies only event (LadySeeds), contact Sharpeyedfirechild or TrebleShooter on the Appleseed forums or contact them on the Southern Nevada Appleseed Facebook page.

Depending on our schedules, we'd sure like to come up there and get our Winterseed patches!

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