This is a discussion on How much does my M14/M1A weigh? within the Reference forums, part of the M14 M1A Forum category; It's very pleasant to see that over the last ~10 years the M14 has come a long way. It used to be that our options ...
It's very pleasant to see that over the last ~10 years the M14 has come a long way. It used to be that our options were limited to barrel profile, barrel length, twist rate and GI, wood or McMillan stocks. Now we have so many options and it came to my attention that we don't have a weight database, or at least not one that I know of, that's readily available all in one place on the forum.
From the U.S. Rifle 7.62MM, M14 and M14E2 Field Manual No. 23-8 dated 7 May 1965.
Weights in Pounds (approximate):
M14 rifle with full magazine and cleaning equipment, 11 1/4
M14 rifle with full magazine and cleaning equipment, selector, and bipod, 13
Empty magazine, 1/2
Full magazine (with ball ammunition), 1 1/2
Cleaning equipment, 2/3
M2 bipod, 1 3/4
M14E2 rifle with full magazine, 14 1/2
I'd like to start collecting data on modern stock weights (SAGE, JAE, AG, Blackfeather, etc...) and barrelled actions with different profile barrels/lengths. I'll be searching the forum over the coming days to include as much as I can come up with. If anyone knows the weight of a particular action or stock, please list the details of what you have or know and how you weighed it (postage scale, stood on a scale with your rifle, etc...)
If you have the weight of a barreled action, please include the weight with the trigger group. Whatever people post, I'll update the title threads
Here are the weight results for some stocks I've weighed (metal hardware included):
stock assembly, fiberglass USGI 11686428 46.2 oz (2.8875 lbs.)
stock assembly, fiberglass USGI 11686428 49.0 oz (3.0625 lbs.)
stock assembly, fiberglass USGI 11686428 45.4 oz (2.8375 lbs.)
stock assembly, walnut USGI 7790702 41.8 oz (2.6125 lbs.)
stock assembly, walnut USGI 7790702 44.4 oz (2.775 lbs.)
Originally Posted by 2336USMC
USGI wood stocks vary quite a bit in weight, due to the density of the individual wood blanks. If you want a light one, you might try taking a postal scale to a gunshow or someplace where there are a number of stocks to pick from.
Here are some stocks I have weighed, notice that some of the standard "skinny" stocks weigh as much as a Big Red, and that the GI fiberglass weighs more than some of the wood stocks...
Stocks, no buttplate or rear swivel
USGI walnut #1 34.3 oz Tru-oil
USGI walnut #2 33.7 oz finish stripped
USGI walnut #3 33.7 oz spray camo, glass bedded
USGI walnut #4 39.1 oz, oil finish
USGI NM birch, medium hvy dwg # 11010263, Sykes, routed for bedding 34.9 oz oil finish
USGI NM walnut, medium hvy dwg # 11010263, S.A., glass bedded 36.5 oz oil finish
USGI NM mystery wood, heavy contour dwg #9352638, Fajen 33.9 oz no finish
USGI NM walnut, heavy contour dwg #9352638, Fajen 41.4 oz no finish
USGI fiberglass 36.9 oz mil finish
USGI fiberglass #2 40.8 oz spray can camo
Hueygunner composite stock 37.4 oz green CARC finish
USGI M14 buttplate 8.2 oz with screws, 7.4 oz 210 gm w/o screws
USGI M1 buttplate 3.8 oz 109gm w/o screws
Rubber spacer 7790914 0.8 oz 22gm
USGI front ferrule 6g
USGI front sling swivel, no rivets 22g
USGI rear sling swivel 22g .8 oz
McMillan fiberglass stock: Approx. 4 lbs. (Need reference) Approx. 4.5 lbs with buttplate and screws.
MODERN STOCK WEIGHTS
• M14ALCS & HB: 5.1 lbs.
• M14ALCS/CV (Chassis with telescoping AR stock tube installed, no stock included): 3.5 lbs. With Magpul CTR Stock: 4.05 lbs.
• M14ALCS/CVFS (Fixed stock, no pistol grip): 5.1 lbs.
• M14ALCS/PMRI: 5.5 lbs.
JAE-100 G3: 4.5 lbs. to 6 lbs. depending on options
TROY: Approx 4.5 lbs. (need verification)
AG Composites: Approx 1.9 lbs (no metal parts). Approx 2.41 lbs. estimated with USGI buttplate installed.
Hueygunner Carbon/Graphite/Kevlar stock (no metal) 2.34 lbs. With buttplate: 2.85 lbs.
Complete standard USGI M14/M1A, empty, no magazine: ~9.2 lbs. (U.S. Rifle 7.62MM, M14 and M14E2 Field Manual) (Wikipedia)
SOCOM 16 with standard SAI Scout rail and empty 10-rd mag: 8.8lbs (SAI website)
SOCOM II with VLTOR cluster rail and empty 10-rd mag: 10 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A Scout Squad with standard SAI Scout rail and empty 10-rd mag: 8.8 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A standard with current production synthetic stock and empty 10-rd mag: 8.8 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A standard with current production walnut stock and empty 10-rd mag: 9.3 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A loaded with current production synthetic stock and empty 10-rd mag 9.3 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A loaded with current production walnut stock and empty 10-rd mag 9.8 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A National Match with current production walnut stock and empty 10-rd mag: 9.8 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A Super Match with current production walnut stock and empty 10-rd mag: 11.2 lbs. (SAI website)
M1A Super Match with McMillan FG stock and empty 10-rd mag: 12.2 lbs. (SAI website)
M21 Tactical Long Range with heavy walnut and empty 10-round mag: 11.6 lbs. (SAI website)
Privately Owned Rifles:
Super Match M1A with McMillan FG stock and heavy barrel and leather sling: 14.2 lbs. (Courtesy of Wolley)
Custom LRB M25 rear-lugged with Mcmillan stock, heavy Krieger barrel, bipod, sling and Nightforce loaded with 20 rounds of 175 SMKs: 20+ lbs. (courtesey of Lennyo3034)
Standard barrelled action with a GI barrel, handguard and trigger group to weigh approximately 6.1 lbs.
If someone can confirm this, please do so.
Last edited by tonyben; September 10th, 2014 at 07:14 AM.
Thanks for the input, folks. I encourage anyone with a postage scale to weigh their individual rifles, parts or barrelled actions, please and post it here so I can update the list.
I created this as a quick reference for anyone trying to build a rifle or make changes to their rifles so that they can have a side by side comparison of the weight of their final product before optics and accessories and help people put in perspective how heavy or light of a rifle that you will end up with.
I would like to see any owners of M1A's post their rifle weights. I think SAI might be a little conservative on their weights since there is a 2 pound difference reported from SAI and Wolley regarding the same rifle.
Thanks to all who posted this stuff before which I was able to collect using the search feature and for all those who will contribute in the future.