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Old December 18th, 2011, 07:21 PM   #1
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Is it a Norinco or a Polytec?

Well, I picked up a M14s from a Pawn shop. It is a 4 digit serial number. It must be a very early ban rifle. All they did was cut the front of the flash hider, and bayonet lug off, then welded the nut to the flash where you can't take it off.

I haven't made up my mind if I going to leave as it is, or put a new flash hider. They could not have made many like this because this was done after the regular flash hider, and before the solid ones were made.

Somebody also sanded the stock and put some poly on it from the looks of it. I"ll put that back right. It has nice piece of wood on it.

But my 1st thing to learn is which is it?

Also, has anybody seen this number on the trigger housing? None of the other parts are marked. Well I have not pulled it yet, but there appears to be 2 numbers penicled on the bottom of the bolt.

Anybody able to figure out the "born on" date.....



















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Old December 18th, 2011, 07:30 PM   #2
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Looks like a Norinco to me.

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Old December 18th, 2011, 08:31 PM   #3
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It's a Norinco imported by Century Arms. The receiver was made in September 1990. The number on the trigger housing is the serial number of the rifle it was originally a part of in the 1960s.

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Old December 18th, 2011, 08:59 PM   #4
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So at one time they used some old Military parts to build the Chi-Coms also? I thought they made all their on parts.

Do you have any idea how many were done with the cut flash hider?

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Old December 18th, 2011, 09:26 PM   #5
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A work little with a dremel tool and you will be able to get the cut flash hider off and replace it with an uncut flash hider.

I also have a Norinco M14, its a nice rifle and shoots real nice.

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That's just sad. A Norc with a circumcision. Now I've seen everything.

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Old December 19th, 2011, 06:21 AM   #7
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Very, very nice rifle my friend.... IMHO these unmarked Norincos are some of the best, if not the very best Chi-coms imported to the US..... I've built several of em', all had extremely good lug geometry & required VERY little work to accept a GI bolt - You have a keeper!

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So at one time they used some old Military parts to build the Chi-Coms also? I thought they made all their on parts.

Do you have any idea how many were done with the cut flash hider?
The Chinese manufactured their own parts, receivers and stocks in the 1960s. These rifles were disassembled in the 1980s and reassembled with (then) new manufacture semi-automatic only receivers.

Century Arms imported some Chinese M14 rifles around 1991 with bobbed flash hiders. AFAIK, there's no added collector value to that. They are not as common as the ones with the faux flash suppressors but you do see them.

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Old December 19th, 2011, 07:26 AM   #9
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What was the purpose of welding on the nut?? Just to make sure you didn't swap out a USGI flash hider? I don't recall my Poly having a tack welded nut on it, but it was a longggg time ago........

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What was the purpose of welding on the nut?? Just to make sure you didn't swap out a USGI flash hider? I don't recall my Poly having a tack welded nut on it, but it was a longggg time ago........
Same as the pinned and welded recoil reducer on the FAL's. Keep you from changing it out.

Your Gov. dollars at work........

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Old December 19th, 2011, 11:33 AM   #11
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Both of my heel stamped Keng's imported Polytechs had the tack welded on castle nut, which was easily removed with my Dremel tool. My latest IDE Mich side stamped Polytech came with a GI style flash suppressor with bayonet lug and a nice looking Chinese walnut stock. They are excellent examples of a semi auto M14 and I was attracted to them due to their excellent forged receivers, forged one piece op rods and chrome lined barrels.

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Old December 19th, 2011, 12:18 PM   #12
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Well - I'd guess that mine probably did too then. Like I said - a long time ago, and lots of tinkering with toys has been attempted and accomplished over the years. I do know it had the fake hider on it when purchased.

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Ive only had my Norinco M14 for a few months, I don`t know when it was imported but it has a very low serial number 000751, and the flash hider was not cut.

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Old December 20th, 2011, 07:08 AM   #14
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Yours is probably pre-ban, or someone changed the flashider. Durning the ban, it was either cut or solid.

Just guessing....

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My two heel stamped polytechs are serial numbers 0057X and 0097X and I've done the GI bolt conversions on both on them. 0057X was built using TRW parts and 0097X was built using Springfield GI parts.

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