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Old August 29th, 2011, 08:26 AM   #1
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USMC marksmanship training w/ canvas sling

Good morning,
I just joined this forum. A while back I purchased a sweet M-i Garand as the sticker shock for the M-14 was too great. It is not all that different as to the general characteristics i.e. recoil, size, weight, sights etc. When I tried to employ the USMC range techniques for sling adjustments (1969 era) I found that I'd forgotten how. Did I get old or what.

I applied to the local USMC offices for any material that they might have and have discovered that the techniques that I learned were not being taught any longer. Can anyone help me with this? Any down load or reference material that could help me relearn? It was the best shooting technique that I have seen
or used.

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Old August 29th, 2011, 08:44 AM   #2
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Good morning,
I just joined this forum. A while back I purchased a sweet M-i Garand as the sticker shock for the M-14 was too great. It is not all that different as to the general characteristics i.e. recoil, size, weight, sights etc. When I tried to employ the USMC range techniques for sling adjustments (1969 era) I found that I'd forgotten how. Did I get old or what.

I applied to the local USMC offices for any material that they might have and have discovered that the techniques that I learned were not being taught any longer. Can anyone help me with this? Any down load or reference material that could help me relearn? It was the best shooting technique that I have seen
or used.

Many thanks,
setdesign45
I really think there's a Bunch of Good Stuff In The Archives Here...

A Too Quick Search Found This...

Thoughts on sling usage?

I would start Searching every 'Sling' possibility here...

Good Luck!

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Old August 29th, 2011, 09:33 AM   #3
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See if this helps:

http://www.ray-vin.com/frtech.htm

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Old October 14th, 2011, 10:13 PM   #4
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The way they demonstrate it in that link was exactly what I was taught in recruit training in 1971 (except we used the Hasty Sling to fire the 10 rounds of Offhand Fire). It was good enough for me to join 8 other, earlier Marines and TIE the All Time Requalification Record at Quantico, Virginia with a 249/250.

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Old October 14th, 2011, 11:54 PM   #5
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You could do an Appleseed that is the way they teach it.

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Old October 15th, 2011, 12:22 AM   #6
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The way it is illustrated at ray-vin.com is the way it is currently taught in the Marine Corps.


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Here is a link to the Marine Corps Marksmanship guide MCRP 3-01A

http://www.txmarks.org/cdfiles/Indiv...rksmanship.pdf

Skip to page 47 for sling use and positions


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Old October 15th, 2011, 03:21 AM   #7
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Gus, 249 holy crapolla. I thought you were just a rifle mechanic. Guess I will have to pay more attention.
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The positions used in MCL postal competition are the same ones I learned in '61 with the M-1. If you still have your Guidebook or can get one, that's what we studied at the time. We snapped-in with web slings, which were easier to use than leather. When we switched to the M-14 a year or two later, I recall that everyone's scores improved and many more shot expert.

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You want to make a loop sling I'm guessing? Here's a video on YT

http://youtu.be/rQyl4_BPXIE

Gotta love youtube. If I forgot how to tie a tie, it's on YT
Hope this helped.

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You want to make a loop sling I'm guessing? Here's a video on YT

http://youtu.be/rQyl4_BPXIE

Gotta love youtube. If I forgot how to tie a tie, it's on YT
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Yep, that's a good video. Set up like most set them up, loops are a PIA to get in and out of between COF's. I set all mine up with a "J" hook on both ends. Disconnect both ends, get into your loop and it just dangles on your arm until your prep time. Pick up the rifle, hook the front hook, you're good to go. All done with your COF, unhook the front, safe your rifle, walk away. No getting in and out and it's FAST. But you can hook the back and use the hasty in the standing position easily as well.....O.L.

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The is one of my favorite pages it shows how to setup the M1907 sling and how to use the sling in the different shooting positions. Hope it helps, lord know nowadays they don't teach us this kind of stuff in the military. They just give us tactical single point slings and let us go on our merry way.

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Old November 9th, 2011, 04:16 AM   #12
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You're welcome! You could try the TAB sling as well. It's nylon, and has a cuff that you keep on your arm, that's the loop, then you just snap it into your sling.

here's a another video

http://youtu.be/U3y2xYuBQ0Y

can you tell I go on youtube alot? :)

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The way they demonstrate it in that link was exactly what I was taught in recruit training in 1971 (except we used the Hasty Sling to fire the 10 rounds of Offhand Fire). It was good enough for me to join 8 other, earlier Marines and TIE the All Time Requalification Record at Quantico, Virginia with a 249/250.
Nice shooting Gus, the best I've ever done was 243

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Hey Gus,

Just curious: what sort of weapon were you qual'in with at Quantico back in those days? Were you guys using the M14 still? or was the M16 widespread at that point? Happy Early Bday Brother! semper.

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