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Old February 17th, 2013, 07:50 AM   #106
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well here is one for you all.. It's my new toy

Norinco m305 semi auto .308win
20120407 - 12-356 cn 12 ca


purchased Lethbridge Alberta Feb 2
Ackehece, does your rifle have numbers stamped on the receiver left hand side under the stock?

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Old February 18th, 2013, 07:21 AM   #107
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well here is one for you all.. It's my new toy

Norinco m305 semi auto .308win
20120407 - 12-356 cn 12 ca


purchased Lethbridge Alberta Feb 2
Did you get yours through Canada Ammo? My newest Norinco is marked the same, as is one bought by my Dad and Brother. Both of those came from Canada Ammo. Also, (I don't know if it matters) both are 18.5" barreled ones.
Mine has numbers stamped on left side of the receiver under the stock. We found out from the included inspection sheet that my rifle was made in 2012 and, if memory serves, in June.

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yes it has numbers stamped in that location (will look and post them later (not home for a week))
I believe mine was manufactured 2012 April. It's a 18.5
Will have to look up vendor name as I bought it at a gun show.


heres a photo of the serial .



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yes it has numbers stamped in that location (will look and post them later (not home for a week))
I believe mine was manufactured 2012 April. It's a 18.5
Will have to look up vendor name as I bought it at a gun show.


heres a photo of the serial .

i would love to see a few close up pics of that receiver to compare to my 25 year old norinco to see the differences especially the machining on the inside and out as well

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"Different" id'd mine as a Norinco.

S/N: 9592X
Location: Shooter's left, 2 locations. Etched"?" just above stock at back of receiver and stamped on receiver below stock below scope screw hole.
Purchase: Unknown. Salvaged from abandoned home. Had been under water and on fire.

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hello,
I'm sportshooter in New cal. i have bought recently a M1A 7-08 rem but i'm unable to confirm the make.
I have some marking on the side of the receiver and nothing onto the heel.
The left side :
close to the barrel have :
A.R. (A.R. Sales maybe?) 7-08 rem plus a crown above (engraved)
under the ligne of the stock, :
3 12 41 321 stamped
aside , close to the heel:
200981000 (engraved)
On the right side,close to the barrel:
C5816 (stamped)

As being sold to me as a Norinco.
If anyone could help, it will be great
regards

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The left side :
close to the barrel have :
A.R. (A.R. Sales maybe?) 7-08 rem plus a crown above (engraved)
under the ligne of the stock, :
3 12 41 321 stamped
aside , close to the heel:
200981000 (engraved)
On the right side,close to the barrel:
C5816 (stamped)
Interesting, thank you for the input. A.R. may be the importer. Do you know if the rifle was shipped directly from China, or from France or from Australia? Your receiver was manufactured in December 1993 but the rifle was assembled in China in 2009.

Is the engraved number 200981000 or 20098100?

I've been collecting Chinese M14 rifle serial numbers and "lotto" numbers (numbers below the stock) for several years. I don't share who has what. I collect the numbers strictly for research purposes. It is beginning to pay off. The rifle that appears to have been made just before yours at the factory (below the stock numbers 3 12 40 321) was exported as a Poly Technologies rifle in 2009. Both Poly Technologies and Norinco M14 rifles are made at the same factory in China, State Arsenal 356. Poly Technologies and Norinco are the export firms in China.

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Hi differeent,
thank for the infos
You right,
number is 2009 81 00
as long i know, it have being imported in New cal from France.
No more information.
Based on that, do you have more info about the make o fthe barrel, twist and other?
The receiver look machined but from a raw cast part

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Hi differeent,
thank for the infos
You right,
number is 2009 81 00
as long i know, it have being imported in New cal from France.
No more information.
Based on that, do you have more info about the make o fthe barrel, twist and other?
The receiver look machined but from a raw cast part
Thank you for the update. The Chinese M14 receivers were machined from forgings of equivalent AISI 8620 alloy steel. The factory barrel is made from equivalent AISI 1050 carbon steel and chambered for the 7.62 mm NATO cartridge. I have and can share the metallurgy lab report on the Chinese barrel, if you like. The factory barrel has a twist rate of 1:12. You can download my book, M14 Rifle History and Development, for free at www.m14.ca. See Part 2 of that book for information on Chinese M14 rifles.


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Hi Different,

I hope this helps here is my Norinco Info, side stamped under the elevation knob

NORINCO M305 SEMI AUTO .308WIN.
20121527-12-356 CN 12 CA

Lower serial number under the stock : 4 8 56 28 30

On the trigger assembly it is stamped "1527"

which sort of matches part of the receivers number "20121527"

sorry I am a little confused how do you tell the year it was made?

This rifle was purchased new in box from Williams Arms in Ontario Canada

thanks

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Hi Different,

I hope this helps here is my Norinco Info, side stamped under the elevation knob

NORINCO M305 SEMI AUTO .308WIN.
20121527-12-356 CN 12 CA

Lower serial number under the stock : 4 8 56 28 30

On the trigger assembly it is stamped "1527"

which sort of matches part of the receivers number "20121527"

sorry I am a little confused how do you tell the year it was made?

This rifle was purchased new in box from Williams Arms in Ontario Canada
CeeJay, this is very helpful, thank you! Starting in 2009, Chinese M14 rifles have the standardized serial number format as shown on your rifle. From what I've been able to find out, Canada adopted the United Nations regulation concerning markings for imported firearms. I have read the UN regulation but haven't looked at it recently. Here is what the code means:

2012xxxx = (year of assembly and) serial number
12 = year of export (my guess)
356 = State Arsenal 356, the manufacturer
CN = China, country of export
12 = year of import
CA = imported legally into Canada

Your receiver was manufactured though in August 1994. The number on the trigger housing is likely intended to match the rifle serial number, my guess.

Do you know if Williams Arms is a licensed importer? I believe some of the Canadian gun shops buy from the importers for retail sale. Set me straight if I'm wrong on that. TIA

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Hi Different,

As far as I can tell, I do believe Williams is a Licensed importer, It says on there website they can custom order from a lot of the top fire arm manufactures, but I cant be %100 sure. but thanks for the info, interesting to see that the receiver was made almost 20 years ago but the rifle only assembled in 2012. this is a good thread, maybe it can be stickied.

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Hi Different, thanks.
I have already downloaded your book. But as it's not a 308 caliber, it's not easy to sort out
The caliber of my rifle is 7-08 rem as stamped on the receiver, then, is it 1 in 12? I assume this twist is more for the 308?
As the receiver is stamped with the calibe rI have supposed that the rifle had being built as 7-08 rem instead to be rebarrelled later for the purpose of the French civilian market.

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Hi Different, thanks.
I have already downloaded your book. But as it's not a 308 caliber, it's not easy to sort out
The caliber of my rifle is 7-08 rem as stamped on the receiver, then, is it 1 in 12? I assume this twist is more for the 308?
As the receiver is stamped with the calibe rI have supposed that the rifle had being built as 7-08 rem instead to be rebarrelled later for the purpose of the French civilian market.
Good point regarding the caliber. I'm used to 7.62mm NATO / .308 Winchester chambering for M14 type rifles. You're correct, the information above applies to 7.62 mm NATO chambered Chinese barrels. Does your barrel have a chromium plated chamber and bore? I don't know what the twist rate is, great question. The only thing I can think of is to contact a gun dealer in France who sells Chinese M14 rifles to ask the question. I don't speak French, unfortunately.

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I think it should be as the common 7mm barrel, 1 in 9.5 or 1 in 10.
i will mesure. I thought that as the receiver was stamped, it could be a factory make.
I don't know about the quality of the barrel. i will investigate through one of the former owner , but sometime, people just say what they think you would like to heard. That why it's sometime difficult to go in deep for reference information.
If i make a short conclusion, i could tell my rifle is a polytech , built in China in 2009?
thanks again for your information.
in another way, do you have heard about short magnum chambering (7wsm, saum) in M14. any reference could help.

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