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Old April 6th, 2011, 05:51 PM   #1
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M14e2 in Vietnam

Anyone have an good photos of M14 SAWs in Vietnam? Can be just a normal M14 Auto with the a M2 bipod, an M15 rifle, or a M14e2/a1. Would be greatly appreciated, thanks

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Old April 6th, 2011, 08:44 PM   #2
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Sadly, the only photo I have of a full auto M14 on pods is the black & white one which I used to create my avatar. The rifle at my feet is my baby, with M2 bipod and a regular stock (not the E2 pistol grip one) which I carried on my first tour in Nam. The image is blurry at best. My buddy, who took the picture, was a poor photographer, and cut my head off, as well as the bottom of the pod extension legs.

Also, I may be a bit confused on the term "SAW", since I've been out of the Corps for 40+ years. Are there three SAWs per squad, or just one?
I ask because full auto M14s were Fireteam level automatic weapons, giving a full T.O. squad three automatic rifles at the squadleader's disposal.
Just curious.

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Old April 6th, 2011, 09:39 PM   #3
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I know this one is 10,00 miles off target and its setting is a little more peaceful but this is my clone.


Here is a little twist on the E2 Stock I picked up last summer.

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Old April 6th, 2011, 10:07 PM   #4
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Almost looks like a configuration used by paratroops, with the folding buttstock.
Where did you get it and how much did it set you back?

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Old April 6th, 2011, 10:18 PM   #5
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I found it on a Canadian Forum militarysurplus.com while searching for an M2 Bipod. Its in Lee Emersons book. There were 98 made back in 1978 buy a retired armorer living off base at Ft Benning. I got it as a package deal with an M2 pod the E2 stock and a nice regular stock. I paid 900 canadian for the lot. I have only seen one other and it was here on the forum. Surprisingly enough the gent was from upstate NY. It was missing a couple of screw but for the most part it was all there. Its a little different than the ones Reese Surplus were making and the BM59 stock. I could not pass it up. I know its not an issue item but its a small piece of the history of the rifle and it was a collector thing for me. Sadly, i cannot take it to the range here in NY. Its EVIL and may hurt someone. It is neat though. I am going tomorrow to LRB. i am building another action for this stock. It will be a standard M14SA with an 18.5 medium weight Krieger 1/10 CM barrel. It will be 3.5 inches shorter. I will have a regular stock for the action to shoot at the range. Its a shame isn't it?


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Old April 6th, 2011, 11:08 PM   #6
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I never get tired of seeing those 82nd,specially the E2

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Old April 6th, 2011, 11:13 PM   #7
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One of these days I am going to smuggle all the evil crap I have upstate to my brother in law land and go postal on some targets. Ill have to make it an annual event.

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One of these days I am going to smuggle all the evil crap I have upstate to my brother in law land and go postal on some targets. Ill have to make it an annual event.
I had the same/similar idea in 1984, and we've been doing an annual "anything goes" shoot every year since then, on the MLK weekend, in north central Wi. Sometimes a little cold, and often lots of snow, but at least most of the nearby neighbors are indoors with windows closed, so the noise issue is reduced. I'm talking a 3 day event where as much as 6K rounds of ammo are expended with a large variety of small arms and a few belt feds and NFA weapons...

Hope yours turns out to be just as "fun" as ours have been.

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Those are purdy! Thanks for sharing 82nd!

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Old April 7th, 2011, 05:47 PM   #10
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Your welcome.

6000 rounds sounds like a lot of fun to me. I'll be happy just shooting a couple of hundred from the stocks I can't take to the range. I'm not sure he still has one but Claude from ra parts had a birch e2 stock a few months ago if anyone is interested. I passed, I wanted a walnut and then I found that Canadian forum.

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I know this one is 10,00 miles off target and its setting is a little more peaceful but this is my clone.


Here is a little twist on the E2 Stock I picked up last summer.
Sir,

That E-2 of yours is the bomb!!!! I mean it is bad axx hot!

If it were a woman, it would be Raquel Welch, Pamela Anderson!

No M14 collection is complete without an E-2, they are the sexyest!

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Best VIDEO footage is here:





HEAVY use of M14A1 (see FM 23-8, 1974). M14E2 became the M14A1 in the early 1960's.

M15 rifle SAW was NEVER adopted. It was given a type-classification on 1 May 1957, about the time the M14 was adopted, but NEVER produced. Declared obsolete in 1959 or so. It was never even made.

See FM 23-8 for the different versions of the M14 that were OFFICIALLY adopted.

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Old November 24th, 2013, 01:09 PM   #13
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Thanks for that video! The M14E1/A1 was obviously issued and used, in some numbers! Not too surprisingly, I did not see one in use that had the sling properly rigged to put cantilevered downforce through the front grip, to help control muzzle climb. Very hard on the front grip latch and the two piece pistol grip, according to Ordnance repair types - sometimes it caused damage. Later manuals had very explicit instructions of how to use the M14A1.

Probably just handed out, without manuals or instruction - like the XM16 was - and thus not all of the breakage and/or bad results were the fault of the equipment. I read it was common to crack/break the dovetailed together pistol grip if used in full auto without the comp and sling correctly installed. Still, should have kept the NVA/VS's heads down. Sounded like everyone had his own M60 from the other side? CC


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Early Nam.

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