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Old December 18th, 2016, 05:51 AM   #16
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Just got a Scout in walnut as well. I didn't really care for the scope mount set up. After taking off the barrel mount and front hand guard, I progressed through USGI handguard, to reinforced fiberglass handguard, to a really nice walnut handguard that I bought from Treeline, it came with the handguard clip installed and dropped right in
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Wow, what a difference! When the weather improves, she will wear a Bassett Low Picatinny mount with a Leupold 3X9 scope.

Good luck with your rifle, I think you did well!

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Old December 18th, 2016, 06:41 AM   #17
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I don't know if you can get less than 1.5, especially with the scout scope setup. That barrel clamp negatively impacts potential accuracy, I would think.
No doubt,the barrel clamped sight mount is a limiting factor, therefore I don't expect to get less than 1.5 MOA, but I'm still optimistic that I can get 1.5 MOA or close to it. My purpose is not to achieve sniper or NM target shooting accuracy, but more or less get Gus's Walter Mitty rifle practical usage out of it. For me the Scout Scope is essential for this purpose and I'm willing to sacrifice extreme accuracy to get practical accuracy in a fast handling, do near 'bout anything major caliber "carbine".

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Old December 18th, 2016, 07:02 AM   #18
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1.5 moa is Match grade accuracy. It is expected from a National Match rifle. A Scout/Bush rifle is expected to have Service grade accuracy, which is about 3 moa. If your rifle shoots better, then you are doing great.

Service Rifle targets have a 10 ring that is approximately 3 moa, with an X ring of approximately 1.5 moa. This allows just about everyone to compete, but only the best to win.

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Old December 18th, 2016, 07:20 AM   #19
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1.5 moa is Match grade accuracy. It is expected from a National Match rifle. A Scout/Bush rifle is expected to have Service grade accuracy, which is about 3 moa. If your rifle shoots better, then you are doing great.

Service Rifle targets have a 10 ring that is approximately 3 moa, with an X ring of approximately 1.5 moa. This allows just about everyone to compete, but only the best to win.
I don't have any Service Rifle experience, so my frame of reference is from shooting some FTR, dominated mostly by bolt guns. There the 10 ring is 1 MOA and the X ring 0.5 MOA. But that is not my intended use, so it's not really applicable. So all I know is that there are still things I can do to improve accuracy, short of full NM upgrades. Initial groups out of the box (actually a nice zippered case) with ball ammo were about 6 MOA with some wild fliers. I have shot enough to know when they are self induced, and most of these were not.

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Thanks; I was unaware of that.

Does anyone who has the scout prefer the optics in a scout mount or standard? I've talked to 2 friends of mine today, and while they've never owned an M1A scout squad, they have owned other scout models (bolt action). Both of them eventually went to a traditional scope mount as well.

I guess time will tell eventually, but just messing around in the garage, it seems pretty handy.

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On my 2012 Scout I could never get the LER scope to zero on the front rail, ran out of "up" on the scope.

Switched to a Bassett mount and a Leupold scope.

Then finally figured out the Scout mount was not parallel with the bore, it was running down hill towards the muzzle.

I was shooting better with the receiver mounted scope, so I stayed with it and removed the Scout rail.

I put the LER scope on my Ruger Gunsite bolt action 308, where it works fine.

So a few reasons I switched the mounting position.

The LER scope (inexpensive) I was using may not have been able to handle the recoil of the M1A.

The rail wasn't installed properly from the factory.

Crappy eyesight made the LER scope difficult to use.

And I wanted to be able to use the irons without removing the scope.

It's your rifle so set it up for what works best for you and your shooting needs.

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Old December 18th, 2016, 10:25 AM   #21
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Thanks all for the input; it's appreciated. The plan for now, is to return the Burris scout scope, Leupold rings and BC flip-up caps when they arrive and use the current setup. I'm picking up 8# of H4895 tomorrow and will use the cash from the returns for projos, primers and more brass. I'm already fairly well equipped with mags and other accessories. If in the future I decide that the scout-mounted scope isn't for me, I'll look into switching to a receiver-mounted scope. But, for my intended purposes, I have high hopes for the scout mount.

I do want to be able to remove the scope and use the irons on occasion as I do shoot XTC a few times per year. Not enough to truly be competitive, but I have a lot of fun doing it. I've got other rifles I can use for this purpose as well, but I like to give them all a few chances to "get their feet wet" so to speak. My favorite match is coming up in February; this year it's the "125th Annual Washington's Birthday Match" in Phoenix. It's the longest-running rifle match in the United States, and it's all done from the 200 yard line. This particular match is more about the camaraderie to me and less about the score.

Here's a few shootin' pics that show my love of the sport:











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