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September 1st, 2006, 05:19 PM
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#1 | | Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Howe's Cave, NY
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| The Tomb Guards
The Tomb Guards
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Arlington  Here
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September 2nd, 2006, 03:34 AM
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#2 | | Lifer
Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: North Woods of Florida
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Very nice - thanks Hawk!
PS Where do they get those white shooting gloves??
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September 2nd, 2006, 06:36 PM
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#3 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: right side of the left coast
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Originally Posted by Dave P Very nice - thanks Hawk!
PS Where do they get those white shooting gloves?? | They're white cotton dress gloves. Then you wet your thumb and forefinger so the rifle won't slip.
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September 3rd, 2006, 04:03 PM
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#4 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: 49th State
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I wish people would take more time remember those who died so we can live free...
Thanks Hawk for posting these pics....JW
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September 3rd, 2006, 04:13 PM
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#5 | | Platoon Sergeant
Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern California
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September 3rd, 2006, 04:24 PM
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#6 | | Banned Camp
Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Katrina Country
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Originally Posted by chickenfried | I watched a documentury on Arlington on PBS last year or so that went into detail about these guys. One of the newbe guys was getting ready for the final test.
One very serious bunch of guys. 0200 in the rain, they put just as much effort into it as when they are being watched by tourists at high noon. These guys deserve a lot of respect, too.
I thought I remember seeing an M1 or two during the show, but maybe not.
Keep your eyes open, there have been a couple of shows on Arlington on PBS and/or Discovery the last few years. Both are well worth watching.
nolan
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September 3rd, 2006, 04:26 PM
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#7 | | Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Howe's Cave, NY
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Thanks for posting the link.
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September 3rd, 2006, 07:06 PM
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#8 | | Lifer
Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Howe's Cave, NY
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Thought ya'll might like to see what the badge and patch look like 
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September 17th, 2006, 09:10 AM
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#9 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pennsylvania
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Are guards picked from all branches? Is that a special uniform they wear? It's not quite Army , and I have not seen Marine dress blues or Navy Crackerjacks.
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September 17th, 2006, 01:51 PM
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#10 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: right side of the left coast
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Originally Posted by M14E2 Are guards picked from all branches? Is that a special uniform they wear? It's not quite Army , and I have not seen Marine dress blues or Navy Crackerjacks. | All Tomb Guards are members of 1/3rd US Inf (reinf) US Army and they wear US Army Dress Blue uniforms.
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September 26th, 2006, 05:04 PM
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#11 | | Old Salt
Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Pennsylvania
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Thanks!
Officers and enlisted eligible?
Or just one?
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October 24th, 2006, 08:44 PM
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#12 | | Lifer
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chesterfield, VA
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Unless things have changed since 1975-79 most of them come out of Honor Guard Co. The Tomb Sentinels are part of Honor Guard Company. Of course I'm (still) prejudiced about which company is tops in the battlion as I was in the 1st Plt. of Honor Guard for just over 3.5 years. At that time there was no doubt in my mind where the best guys were so therefore no surprise why most of the Sentinels were recruited right out of Honor Guard. Again, unless things have changed the new guys get stuck with the duty after the gates close in the evenings and the tourists go home. The new guys have to pay their dues just as the "old" guys did when they were trying out for a spot there. "Wet your gloves" not in the 3+ years I was there. We bought our own gloves. E-3's and E-4's didn't make enough money to buy a new pair of gloves every day. If you don't understand, buy a pair, wet them down and then handle your M14 for a few hours. The stains don't wash out very well. Wet gloves pick up dirt/stains much easier than dry gloves.
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October 25th, 2006, 10:44 AM
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#13 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: right side of the left coast
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Originally Posted by M1A's r BEST Unless things have changed since 1975-79 most of them come out of Honor Guard Co. The Tomb Sentinels are part of Honor Guard Company. Of course I'm (still) prejudiced about which company is tops in the battlion as I was in the 1st Plt. of Honor Guard for just over 3.5 years. At that time there was no doubt in my mind where the best guys were so therefore no surprise why most of the Sentinels were recruited right out of Honor Guard. Again, unless things have changed the new guys get stuck with the duty after the gates close in the evenings and the tourists go home. The new guys have to pay their dues just as the "old" guys did when they were trying out for a spot there. "Wet your gloves" not in the 3+ years I was there. We bought our own gloves. E-3's and E-4's didn't make enough money to buy a new pair of gloves every day. If you don't understand, buy a pair, wet them down and then handle your M14 for a few hours. The stains don't wash out very well. Wet gloves pick up dirt/stains much easier than dry gloves. |
Yes we did wet the area between your thumb and forefinger to better grip the rifle. I was in 1st plt/ 1st sqd E Co(Honor Guard) 1/3rd (reinf) The Old Guard. Was Sgt Deady still there when you got there or had he been transfered to Korea by then?
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October 26th, 2006, 03:31 AM
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#14 | | Lifer
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chesterfield, VA
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I don't recall the name. I got there in Feb. 1975. 1st Sgt. Francis (Jack) Daniels was still there. I dropped my M14 one time at a Parade Practice on the last count of fix baynets. By the time he was done almost breaking my right hand (slamming the rifle into while holding it with his other hand) while telling me how hard it would be to remove it from the place he was gonna jamb it up sideways if I ever dropped it again I had enough incentive to never drop it again. That was a practice. I don't recall anyone dropping a rifle during a job. I do recall a Sgt. of the Guard dropping one during a Changing of the Guard at the Tomb. He resigned that day and was reassigned to 1st Plt. for awhile before leaving the Company. Dropping a weapon during a job was as bad or worse than "crashing" (passing out) during a job. And no, I didn't wet my gloves nor do I remember my room mates or buddies doing so. I suppose it would help but no one ever told us to do it. When were you there? I believe I remember the names of most of the squad leaders and a few of the team leaders. At the time "my world" was my squad so I didn't have much dealing with team leaders from other squads. Just S/Sgt. Zakur, Sgt. Shoolts and Sgt. Hopkins. None of them worth remembering really. If Sgt. Foreman is still out there somewhere he was the best squad leader I ever had (a former Marine who reenlisted into the Army).
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October 26th, 2006, 09:40 AM
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#15 | | Fire Team Leader
Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: right side of the left coast
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I sent you a PM. Did you use a coke bottle and a bent penny to "Dome" your US and crossed rifle discs? How about using a wire coat hanger inside your "bus driver" hats to reshape the back so it stands up. Was Charley Guard still wearing their funky patch on the right pocket button of their fatigues? We in E co. were the only ones to wear the Honor Guard tab then. If you still have a pair of white cotton gloves dampen the area on your right hand between your thumb and forefinger and try going from order arms to right shoulder arms, you'll see why we did it.
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