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Old January 27th, 2015, 05:44 PM   #31
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My first year at Perry was '96. The Marines were shooting 14's at the time. I recall someone in the pits one day asking Julia Watson how she had shot at offhand and her response was a quiet "100 with 8". She could not have weighed more than 100 pounds. Later in the week I was lucky enough to score for that team in the team match. I could not believe how many left the line with clean scores. I remember that the nickname for one of the shooters was the 'pocket Marine' since he was smaller, but talent wise he was in a class by himself. Different times seeing the best use an M14. It would be awesome to see again.

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Old January 30th, 2015, 10:44 PM   #32
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I see the rifles are stored muzzle down, bolt closed (dry fired first i assume?).

Think that'll be how I store mine from now on... might as well do what the experts do!

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Old February 1st, 2015, 07:50 PM   #33
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Tato - Right on. The biggest benefits to the Big Gun were in the slow fires. More 200SF were shot with that service gun than any other. Heck, the first clean NMC score I can think of was shot in 1975 by SSgt. Pat Boyle, USA... using M118 ammunition. If one can hold on for the rapids, you're onto something.

CA - The rifles are kept ( or supposed to be kept ) with a very, very light coat of oil over external metal parts as to prevent rust. But the gas cylinder, piston and barrel all must remain dry. If some oil or solvent gets into the gas cylinder, you may fire it and an increased amount of smoke will be present. The bolt lugs, action raceways, op rod guide etc. all are supposed to be greased, which is okay as grease doesn't run.

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Old February 1st, 2015, 07:58 PM   #34
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Here's a few more, nothing groundbreaking. This just shows the amount of bolt lug contact these rifles all have, different manufacturers of bolts, and barrel markings from the old days. These are all sub-minute guns - full bolt contact truly is needed for the highest of performance.









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Old February 1st, 2015, 08:01 PM   #35
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theyre mcmillan stocks. its not paint.
Thats why they never did digital camo. Though it would be an accomplishment.

Wow what a thread. Good show!

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Old February 1st, 2015, 08:09 PM   #36
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Tomorrow I'll see if I can't post up some of the old RTE formal build procedures. Hopefully everyone will like that treat.

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Old February 1st, 2015, 09:40 PM   #37
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gorgeous rifles! wouldn't happen to be any "spare" usgi parts laying around?

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Old February 1st, 2015, 10:30 PM   #38
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I am surprised that nobody commented on the unusual parts along the right side of the receiver, as shown nicely in photo 4 of post @1. Unusual in that they are absent from our M1As.

McMillan F/G stocks are readily available, but those parts are scarce.

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Old February 2nd, 2015, 06:54 AM   #39
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Thanks for sharing! Sure wish I knew where the rifle I won the Hawaii State High Power Championship was...
All the locals were shooting "space guns" and kinda scoffed at my old USMC M-14.
Until I won...:)


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I am surprised that nobody commented on the unusual parts along the right side of the receiver, as shown nicely in photo 4 of post @1. Unusual in that they are absent from our M1As.

McMillan F/G stocks are readily available, but those parts are scarce.
Nobody is surprised, cause there US Gov't property.

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Outstanding!

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Wow...Very Cool....!

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Old February 2nd, 2015, 07:58 AM   #43
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Figured you all would enjoy seeing these. They are some of the last few heavy barrel, double lug, double torque screw rifles the Marine Corps has. They have some personality to them. They are a mix of 1/10, 1/11, 1/12 twist barrels.

Any questions, let me know! I cannot show serial numbers from the receivers, but other than that, its okay.



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Great information and pictures, thanks for sharing!

The rifles on the left and middle in this picture have the earliest McMillan competition stocks. They're interesting to me since I recently bought an early Super Match that had one of these stocks. I've quoted a few posts below from an earlier thread about the Super Match that include more information on the stocks.

I would be interested to know whether the rifles in those earlier stocks are double lugged. My stock is not, but I guess they could have been modified later. (I'm not asking you to pull them out of the stocks, ha, just curious.)

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This early Super Match rifle is interesting because it has one of the very early McMillan competition stocks. These stocks were made for the Marine Corps. They included a round indented area where a wood stock would have the liner screw installed. This was an attempt to duplicate the appearance of a GI stock. They also had a very short pistol grip which was eventually changed to a more normal size. Note too that the receiver is not lugged and the op rod guide is dove tailed on the bottom of the barrel. These often came loose with use. It's a great find.
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Springfield Armory, Inc. was building (read Glenn Nelson) Super Match M1A rifles with McMillan fiberglass stocks by 1984. As Ted mentioned above, the stock in the original post is an early model McMillan stock. It predates 1987 when the stock liner screw depression was eliminated and the grip was lengthened. My guess is the Marine Corps was using McMillan stocks for competition starting in 1982 or 1983.
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....I did some further checking. The 1981 SA, Inc. factory catalog lists the McMillan fiberglass stock supplied to the Marine Corps as an option and has a photo of Glenn Nelson as the builder for its match grade M1A rifles.. This item is not listed in the previous factory catalog. Give SA, Inc. a call and let us know what you find out. If the McMillan stock is original, it's a very early one for SA, Inc.

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Cass - Yes, the older model stocks hold double lug receivers as well. There were a few guns issued that were rear lug only, and they are still in storage, but the double lug guns were the only ones that were kept in service. Less sensitivity to super-tight sling pressures is always a good thing.

Dresden - I thought of how a digital camo M14 stock would look and I about threw up! It can be done but would take some roughing up and a new coating of powder coat or cerakote.

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I don't think that was the last year the USMC fielded an all M14 team. I think the last year is still to come!

I believe there are still some tricks up that old girl's sleeve that have yet to be exploited.

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