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Old February 18th, 2011, 04:27 PM   #1
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i just got a m1a national match and as good as the irons are i would still like to scope it. whats everyone been using and what do you guy like best?

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Old February 18th, 2011, 05:07 PM   #2
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best depends alot on opinion, and your budget. for me best would be a mid range magnification nightforce NXS.

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Old February 18th, 2011, 05:07 PM   #3
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There are a bunch of scopes on the market. But there is no best all around scope. So you pick the best one fore the type of shooting you do. Target, 3 gun or what?

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Old February 18th, 2011, 05:37 PM   #4
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IMO the Best Scope for a M1A is one that delivers what you want/need irregardless of price or manufacturer. To paraphrase an Old Drag Racing term "How fast do you want to go is dependent on how much you want to spend." I use 1/2 the cost of the rifle as a starting point so in your case $800+ would be where I'd start. Lotso' really good ones at that price and buy the best mount that'l do it justice.

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Old February 18th, 2011, 07:06 PM   #5
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IMO the Best Scope for a M1A is one that delivers what you want/need irregardless of price or manufacturer. To paraphrase an Old Drag Racing term "How fast do you want to go is dependent on how much you want to spend." I use 1/2 the cost of the rifle as a starting point so in your case $800+ would be where I'd start. Lotso' really good ones at that price and buy the best mount that'l do it justice.
Very well said indeed! Truth is(IMHO) there is no such thing. Best is a relative term at best(lol.) Every rifle is a bit different, every eye is a bit different, and every intended use is more than a bit different. I have recently begun to utilize scopes and have really tried to "see" the differences the "experts" describe in their reviews. With the exception of obvious defects, I really can't tell the difference. No offense intended to anyone, but I believe this is one of those things that truly is subjective. Asking questions is always worthwhile, but in the end it is a personal decision.

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Old February 18th, 2011, 08:51 PM   #6
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Having recently gone through this exercise a lot depends on what you want or are willing to spend. I lusted after the Nightforce but finally decided that $1800 was too strong for my first scope. I have previously only used irons but my vision has gone to crap and I couldn't make out the targets.

If you have the money then look at NF or more expensive. I looked at Leupold Mark4 bit at that price I would have kicked in the rest for a NF. Check sniperhide and you might find a used scope which fits your need. I finally got a Leupold VX3 which was a good compromise for me right now. YMMV

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Old February 19th, 2011, 06:12 AM   #7
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Question What Scope

Having gone through through 3 scopes in 8 month's. My 3rd was the winner. Ended up with a used Kahles, 2.2x9. Had I read a little more and not succumbed to hype. I wouldn't have had to go through the happy HS that I did. In many cases, not all but many, you get what you pay for. What's your intended purpose?, Do you want fixed power or variable? Lighted reticle or not? What reticle period? Read more of the forums here and you'll get a better idea of what's available for what purpose and at what cost. Lots of knowledgeable folks here.

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Old February 19th, 2011, 06:48 AM   #8
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Start with the basics...

Budget?
Intended use?

Then go to...

Magnification?
Fixed/Variable?
Size?
Weight?
Reticle type (MIL/MOA/Hunting)?
Knob type (MIL/MOA)?
Illuminated reticle?
Tube size?
Objective size?
Additional features?

I've just finished making a list for my next scope and I had to go through all of those things myself.

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Old February 20th, 2011, 04:18 PM   #9
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wow thanks for all the advise everyone. i have been looking at the Leupold mark 4 - 8.5-25 LRM1 and most of its used for 200 yds "the max range at my gun club" but know a few friends with farms that could extend that distance out to 600yd. i like the Nikon m223 3-12 scope on my ar but wanted to do better on my m1a and was curious what was common, thanks

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Old February 20th, 2011, 04:28 PM   #10
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IOR looks good right now as does Nightforce NXS.

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Old February 20th, 2011, 06:47 PM   #11
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HOLY MAGNIFICATION! You do realize that just because you can see the moon with a scope doesn't mean you can hit it right?

So I take it this rifle will never leave the bench. Cause if it does with that scope you're going to be hating life. I had the next step down, 6.5-20X50, and I never dialed past 16X since the exit pupil was too narrow for me. After having it a few years I didn't want a scope with that much magnification or that long again so I got a smaller one that's 1.8-10X44. Now it'll be replaced with a 1.8-10X37 that's a little more compact...

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Old February 21st, 2011, 07:12 AM   #12
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I started with:
1. Leupold MK 4 8-25x50 IL TMR M1
2. Leupold MK 4 6.5-20 X50
3. Trijicon TA 55
4. Leupold MK 4 3.5-10x40 M3 mildot
5. Now I'm running a Leupold MK 4 2.5-8x36 M2 IL mildot

I guess what I'm saying is that bigger isn't always better.
Whatever you get you'll probably change and try something different later.
You're not married to it.

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Old February 27th, 2011, 02:57 PM   #13
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M14 scope moubnt experience ...

I had my old eyeballs LaZer melted in Y2K,
hence my user name "Lazerus2000".

There was an unexpected side effect of the lazering process, and since then I've found I can no longer shoot accurately with a rear peep sight ... the front sight now "wiggles" around in the peep as if the target is giving me the finger!!! So, as a somewhat dedicated M14 shooter, since Y2K I've mounted dozens of scopes and red dot sights to dozens of M14 type rifles. This experience has left me a bit frustrated and crazy ... the whiplash back and forth recoil and intense vibration of the M14 bolt and op rod slamming open and shut is notoriously hard on M14 mounted scopes.

I had a brand new Tasco 24X Variable "Target" scope shoot great at 25 yds for the first five shots, but when I shot another five rounds at 100 yds for zero, my group opened up to pie plate size. I checked the scope mount and rings for loose connections, then noticed that my brand new scope was drooping noticeably at the front. Apparently, on that model, Tasco used a TWO PIECE tube, with a joint under the turrets. And that day that tube joint came apart under only ten rds of 7.62 NATO BALL ammo out of that M14.

Over the years, while I have had M14 rifles kick the lenses out of various scopes, and demolish various mounts, this was some kind of new personal record for me.

What I can tell you from years of experience, with dozens of scopes, is that the only cheap scopes I personally like are the old made in Japan Bushnell Scopechief VI. Various models of these very decent scopes are often available used at gun shows for very low prices, and so far, with thousands of rounds through dozens of scopes on dozens of M14 rifles, I've yet to have one of these Scopechief VI scopes fail.

If you want to spend a bit more money, and want a "Tacticool scope", and if you can put up with a fixed 10X scope with no parallax adjustment, I also have had good luck with the Bushnell 3200 10X Mildot "tactical". These look proper sitting on top of a "tacticool" M14 ... not too big and heavy with nice massive turrets sticking out. But be aware that with some M14s, a large sized right scope turret will some times get hit by the ejected brass. Usually, no damage done, but the brass leaves marks on the turret caps.

I currently set up my M14 rifles mostly as CQB optimised , throw in the back of the truck, beatemup, "quick and dirty" "shorties", with Canuck legal 18.75" barrels and often a folding stock. On these type M14 rifles, I usually prefer a low powered variable scope. Currently I swap my made in Japan Bushnell 1.75 - 5X variable, or a 4X fixed, between my M14 shorty and my 11.5" M4gry AR 15.

For long range shooting, I use one of my AR 10 rifles, and I bolt on the biggest most expensive scope I can afford. With the AR 10 and with BIG scopes, there is no intense scope wrecking vibration, like you find with an M14.

Just some advice from a guy who has BTDT too many times with M14 scopes to remember them all.

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Old February 28th, 2011, 10:11 AM   #14
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M-1A scope

I have a Nitrex 2, 3X15 scope on my NM M-1A and, for the price, I think it is a nice piece of glass. Natchez has close-out prices, with a rebate, for under $300.
That said, going Leupold or some of the other high-dollar scopes mentioned above, you can't go wrong.
Depends on your budget.
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Old February 28th, 2011, 10:46 AM   #15
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Depending on your budget I just picked up a slightly used Premier Reticles 3-15X50 with the Gen 2 XR reticle to put on my M1A. I had a Leupold VXIII 3.5-14X40 scope on the M1A but ended up putting it on a 03A3. I'll be mounting the PR scope on the M1A after I have it rebarreled and before the next time I go to the range with it.

I use the PR 5-25X56 on my 1000 yard target rifle and it performs extremely well for me. Also these scopes can take quite a beating and hold dead nuts zero.

Heres the depiction and specs of the Gen 2 XR reticle.

http://premierreticles.com/pdfs/2009-3-15xGen2XR.pdf

These scopes have an illuminated reticle feature that I do not use.

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