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Old November 30th, 2011, 11:50 AM   #31
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Where can i buy 1 of these "Leupold" Mk4 scopes at??
Real or knockoff?

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Old November 30th, 2011, 12:01 PM   #32
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Real or knockoff?

I know plenty of places to buy the real thing but i cannot find a fake anywhere - HELP!!!

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I know plenty of places to buy the real thing but i cannot find a fake anywhere - HELP!!!

This is where alot of that bs comes from, take a good look around, soooo may different models, be warned !!!

http://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/leupold.html

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If you attend a non collector type gun show here in PA., you will see tables and tables of Chinese black rifle items. I know because when the dealers are setting up on Friday I can see the boxes are marked "Made In China".

Collapsible stocks, hand guards, barrel parts, scopes, mounts, web cases, you name it, it is there, all junk from China.

Another way you can tell real from fake (sometimes) is by price. If an authentic part sells for $800.00 and there is a website with it available for ..let's say $129.00, use your common sense.

Then there are those sellers on eBay and other auctions who will purchase the fake item, describe it in a vague way that some will read it as real GI, but no statement as such, the seller will sell it for big money.

I could go into the nonsense statement of "Mil Spec" but that is another definition for another time.

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Old April 1st, 2013, 04:10 PM   #35
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Several years ago my hobby was buying and selling New Old Stock (NOS)
car parts. We would attend Swap Meets over the USA. At one meet, in a wood crate was what appeared to be a NOS Flathead Ford bare block. It was PRE 1948and was correct in every way including casting number. I asked the owner where he had found that jewel. He asked me "How many do you want?"

It was a Chinese knockoff. The owner said they can duplicate almost anything but they have to have in hand what they are cloning. Since then I look very close at anything I buy. Except at Walmart where almost everything is from China.

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Old April 1st, 2013, 04:15 PM   #36
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china did the same thing with johnson guitars and ruined the name...

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Now that they are cloning even ELCAN buying from eBay is not sounding like an option anymore.

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Old April 2nd, 2013, 03:47 AM   #38
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This is where alot of that bs comes from, take a good look around, soooo may different models, be warned !!!

http://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/leupold.html
I have seen these on the tables at a gun show up here in Wasilla, AK late last year. I liked the red/green reticules, almost bought one to use on my much lesser used rifles. My thoughts are this, just how good or how bad are the sights? Do they hold at all, I recall somewhere that some Chinese scopes worked well on the lowest power only but as soon as you brought up the power the reticule is all over the place.

Obviously many uneducated people are buying these, especially new gun owners who cannot comprehend the glass costing the same or more as the rifle.

I can just imagine US going to war with a massive Chinese invasion, millions of Americans have bough cheap Chinese gun products, all go either click, kaboom or into another county with the shots, almost as if China had a long range plan to deliberately degrade American gun owners.

To me if the glass is cheaper than your rifle its isn't worth it.

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Old April 4th, 2013, 02:38 PM   #39
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Retired GM field engineer? I don't know you, but why would you work for a company that is supposedly shoddy? Why not work at one of those companies you posted about.

I too have been in many factories, it was the US that taught the Japanese about lean manufacturing, but of course you would know who the first lean manufacturer was...Henry Ford.
I was a field manager @ Porsche, and then a senior quality manager @ Mitsubishi, then Mazda, then Isuzu. GM, in their infinite global greed in the mid-90s, bought Isuzu Commercial Truck, whereupon I "became" a GM engineer, with a front-row seat view to all of their wondrous management techniques which, I'll happily wager, will still fail them when our government's bailout money is all gone.

Of course, this economy will not help them (or Leupold for that matter...), and they will go under (glub glub) taking several billion of our tax dollars with them. And the UAW, who couldn't build something right if you took them by the nose, will finally get their come-uppence. Fact is, based on their latest benefits packages and those they'll see in the future, they pretty much already have!

(Please; no hostile comments from the UAW members in the audience: I know, I stood on the GM line and talked to them as they stalled and fidgeted their time away...)

I once said that there was one company I would NEVER work for, but it turns out they snuck me into their employ through the back door by purchasing the Japanese company I worked for. Then, when they began to go under (fiscally) in ≈ 2005, they divulged themselves of Isuzu and we were set free again. But by then I'd gone on disability.

Yup, we Americans originated statistical quality control, in the forms of Walter Shewart and later Deming, who could not sell his ideas to American automotive manufacturers in the '50s, but did successfully sell them to the Japanese with the historical results we've seen. Now, the American Society for Quality, (ASQ) and others, have formalized such processes.

Point is, anyone in today's global economy who does NOT pursue such statistical methods will fail.

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Old April 4th, 2013, 09:20 PM   #40
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what are the "reputable dealers" - any good recommendations - I need to buy a few scopes
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Never buy from eBay, just because you want to save a few bucks. Go to a reputable retailer; less headaches in the future. The Chicoms are getting craftier in dishing out very convincing fakes out there, specially in the airsoft market.

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what are the "reputable dealers" - any good recommendations - I need to buy a few scopes
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Those that manufacturer lists in their documents or recommends.

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Old April 5th, 2013, 09:15 AM   #43
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I got bit by a fake eotech and when I contacted the seller they simply closed down the web site. It's nothing more than pure theft

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Old May 7th, 2013, 02:20 AM   #44
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Fake leupold

The pix at the beginning post look just like the one that I saw on Ebay foe $300 the guy said he got it from a storage auction.

I asked about it and it was sold before I cold get a reply...

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Old May 7th, 2013, 04:31 AM   #45
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ebay has buyer protection, and if you cant tell the difference between replica gear and a mark IV or specterdr then i dont really have much sympathy.

those replicas are for airsoft and 90% of the time they are sold as such!

if you revcieve a fake item start a ebay resolution case and ebay will refund your money.

btw nightforce glass and tubes are made in japan.

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