This is a discussion on ACOG on SOCOM 2 within the Optics forums, part of the Gun Forum category; I have a SOCOM 2 w/o the extender cluster rail. It works pretty well with an EOTech, but the ghost slights are pretty sloppy beyond ...
I have a SOCOM 2 w/o the extender cluster rail. It works pretty well with an EOTech, but the ghost slights are pretty sloppy beyond 100 yds. I am wondering if mounting an ACOG would make sense for improving accuracy out to 400 yds or more, and if so, what's the best mounting option. I am aware of the stripper clip mount from Sage, as well as some of the extended mount options from LaRue and other mfgs.
If someone has put an ACOG on this version of the SOCOM, I would enjoy getting their perspective. And if a 3x or higher magnification ACOG (or other scope) is put to better use on a full-size M1A, that's an OK answer, too. Thanks in advance.
I didnt use an ACOG, but I put a Leupold VX-II 2x-7x on my SOCOM II by using a LaRue EER mount backwards. It works really nice and can zoom in on smaller "targets" be they furry or made of paper. So if you decide to go with a magnified scope, it will set you back about 210 for the mount, but so far mine has been rock solid. I have some pics of the set up if you want to see how it looks, send me a PM---Hope that helps
IMO, it doesn't matter if your barrel is 14", 16", 18.5", 22" or anything else, you can use an ACOG on it. The magnification you choose depends on what you're looking to do. The 4X is the best all around mag, but they don't make any 4Xs with long eye relief. This leaves you with either the 3X or 5X. I personally wouldn't want the 3X because it doesn't do much. However, it is fast to get on target. The 5X will give zoom you in pretty good, but it is heavy and slower to aquire a target.
I think the only way to mount an ACOG on an M14 and be able to use it is to buy the Trijicon or SEI M14/ACOG mount with a cheek rest.
Here is Diving Dave's 5X on an SEI mount http://www.m14tfl.com/upload/showthr...highlight=acog
If I had the $ to scope a 2nd M14, I'd go with that exact set up.
Maybe my post wasn't clear, but I am questioning whether the SOCOM 2 is going to be shooting tight enough groups at 400M+ to justify having a maginfied optic like an ACOG. The other part of my post relates specifically to mounting a scope on the SOCOM 2 and getting the right eye relief. Sadlak mounts aren't an option, unless the cluster rail is removed (that requires shipping the receiver back to Springfield). If I were to ship back to Springfield, it might make sense just to get the extended rail.
So, I am back to wondering if there is anyone else (besides digitalzombie) on this forum using a magnified optic, like an ACOG, from a SOCOM 2 that does not have the extended cluster rail. Would love to get that person(s) recommendation on a setup. Thanks.
(weird that when I save the post, "zombiX" gets replaced with "thug")
It is not necessary to send your Socom II back to Springfield to have the cluster rail removed. It's a very simple process as follows;
1st, there are two sliding clips, one on each side of the cluster rail just behind the side picatinny rails. Slide both of them towards the receiver to release the bottom section of the cluster. Pivot it forward (towards the FS) and out. It will slip out of the front hinged section.
2nd, remove the rifle from the stock and remove the bolt that attaches the cluster to the receiver as pictured in the next photo (the bolt will look like the one in the photo, but will be occuping one of the holes to the right. The bolt in the picture must also be loosened, it secures a clamp that attaches the cluster to the barrel nearest the receiver, there is also a barrel band mentioned in step #3.
3rd, turn the rifled assembly upside down (front site down). In the next picture notice the two screws that attach the cluster to the barrel with the barrel band (clamp). Remove those two screws and the top cluster assembly will come off of the barrel.
That’s all there is to it. AGOG type optic mounting options really increase when you remove the cluster rail completely. Check out the SEI #2005 mount specifically designed for the use of the ACOG. It adds another inch of picatinny towards the butt of the rifle to allow for appropiate eye relief.
And yes, I have a leupold Mk-4 CQ/T 3x mounted on a SEI #2005 mount. For me it's the perfect setup. Good luck, let us know how it works out and post pic's.
Last edited by blackdiamond; January 26th, 2010 at 06:22 AM.
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Wow, that is tremendously helpful. That is the first time I have seen a post describing removal of the cluster rail. I am guessing that a standard handguard will work once the cluster rail has been removed (?).
Now I guess I have no excuse for not ordering a magnified optic and an SEI or Sadlak mount.
I have this on my loaded standard, and tink it's about the perfect "all around" optic for the platform. At 3.5X, it's quick when I need it to be and enough magnification to take the long shots when I need them.